WHAT DID I TELL YOU!?

WHAT DID I TELL YOU!?

WHAT DID I TELL YOU!?

We’re going back to Smallville High! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! I love it when I’m right.

@sunflowercyn So #smallville used a helicopter, had a live bird on set plus were also at a church last week and high school! 200th epi is going to be wow

“This fall, witness an event ten years in the making. One man will become the hero he was meant to be.”

That line just made it all the more real. It just hit me that this is REALLY it. The home stretch. 22 hours left to go before it is all over.

Yes, season 10 will have a lot in store for us this season, totally getting more than a full meal I would say.

As far as favorite Lex Luthor’s… Rosenbaum is tied with John Shea from “Lois & Clark.” Both charming, cunning, charismatic, dark, funny, good-looking, and twisted. What one needs to create an ideal Lex Luthor.

@James I see your point, that Lex may not at the point in the seventh season, been that much of a mastermind. But hey, who knows? We may never see Rosenbaum as Lex again.

The way that I believe everything went down goes like this: Lex pushes his own Dad out of a window. His shouting match with Clark happens in his library in “Descent” Lex realizes (and we know from other mediums other than Smallville Lex knows when “the stove is getting too hot and it is time to bail.”) Lex knows for a fact that Clark knows Lex pushed Lionel out that window. Lex then gets a doctor who worked on the 33.1 projects, he clones himself, he downloads and copies all his memories to that clone. Of course, not letting the clone know he is a clone that is in fact Lex Luthor. Lex murders the doctor and he go to some remote hide-away somewhere but before he leaves and before he murders the doctor. He implants a camera into the clone’s optic nerve just like he did to Mercy. So, he can see and hear everything that the clone is doing and seeing. The clone moves Mercy up to acting CEO of LuthorCorp just in case something happens to him. “The real” Lex witnesses everything, sees the throwdown in the Fortress, etc. The real Lex let’s everything play out while he is macking on some woman. Who knows? Maybe Dr. Helen Bryce. The clone survives somehow and thinks he is in fact Lex Luthor. And everything plays out in the eighth season the way it does as far as “the clone” goes.

Reason, I have a problem with the real Lex dying in “Requiem” is remember that Lex Luthor in all mediums is always one step ahead of everyone. Something that has always stuck in my head is Lex’s look he gives to the camera in “Descent” when he murders his “good self.” The look of “I embrace the darkness within me and let it take over.” although to me it is also a look of “I have a plan.”

@James When I originally came up with my theory, I also had the idea of Lex knowing Clark’s secret and holding that over him. Not letting Clark know that Lex knows everything about Clark’s Kryptonian Origins and not letting his greatest nemesis know he knows his secret.

Lastly, I have always thought that Lex would want to get some payback on Oliver and Mercy as well. For thinking that they took him down when that wasn’t the case at all. I have always thought that Lex (to go along with Derek’s theory in a way) murder Mercy with Green’s Arrows’ crossbow or one of his arrows and make it look like Green Arrow did it. Making Ollie leave Metropolis and go back to Star City (which is a good way to spin him off into his own series if that is what Kelly or Brian or whoever chooses to do that.)

Now, to paraphrase Mr. Russell this is just a theory Rosenbaum because of his schedule may never return to Smallville. But this is my theory and the one I think makes the most sense to me. What do my fellow Android, Zune, and iPod SHoEligans think?

As for Lucy, I have no idea what they’ll do with her. My guess is that she’ll be working with her dad. It’d make sense b/c she seemed jealous of the time Lois spent with their dad (how little it was). Plus, it would kind of fit in with her role in working alongside Sam during some of the recent comic arcs

Smallville News: If you have not seen SHoE’s Twitter: General Sam Lane and Lucy Lane returning to Smallville. My Lanta are they trying to make this into “Smallville: Greatest Hits” or what? Looking forward to seeing General Lane’s interaction with Clark. What do my fellow Zune, iPod, and Android SHoEligans think about this news?

Other than that, I expect that Clark and Lois will work out their issues themselves. They’re both adults and they don’t need anyone else to help them get through it. I imagine they’ll work it out the way mature couples over the age of 22 do in real-life—just talking it out.

@Woo, I agree. I think we are talking about two different things here. I agree that Clark grabbed Lois during “Salvation” because at that point he just wanted to kiss the women he loved one last time and wasn’t concerned about his identity at that point. That makes sense. My point was that I don’t think you can really say that Lois holding back the information from Clark is a repeat of what Chloe did in Season 4. The first reason being that Chloe got that idea originally from Lois. The second being that Lois learned the secret because she knew Clark so well as a man. She didn’t see him visibily demonstrate his powers by catching a car. She learned he was the Blur because she knew his kiss. It’s very different and I expect that Lois will handle it differently in her own unique way. That’s all I was saying. I agree with what you said above.

///they shouldn’t get back together until it makes sense and both Lois & Clark figure out how to be in a relationship without having it compromise Clark’s destiny.///

@Woo, I actually think you have it backwards. It’s not that a relationship with Lois will compromise Clark’s destiny. It’s more that Clark needs to learn how to balance serving the world without letting it destroy his relationship. He needs to learn that it’s not “selfish” (I’m using Clark’s words here) to want something and take something for himself. That he can, in fact, have both. They sound like the same thing….but they are not the same thing. The issue for Clark and Lois in the future isn’t going to be Clark fulfilling his destiny. We know that he will. The issue for them will be how does he keep her safe? How do they handle with seperation when Clark can’t be around? This is an issue that comes up again and again in the comics and was actually touched on very recently in Superman 700. Clark had to tell Lois (although it broke his heart to do it) that he couldn’t promise her that he wouldn’t have to go away again. He doesn’t want to leave her….but sometimes he has to. That’s a challenge for both of them as ideally both of then would prefer to just stay together. But they both recognize that Clark has a duty to the world. Personally, I think that’s more of the issue. Erica Durance has said that Lois is questioning her role in Clark’s lifenow. She doesn’t want to be a hinderence. She just wants to help him. I think what she’ll learn is that she CAN help him just by loving him and being a support system. It’s all about balance—something that Clark has never really had on this show but needs to achieve.

Here’s an idea I’d like to pose to my fellow iPod, Zune, and Android SHoEligans… According to Brian Austin Green Metallo inserted the control chip in himself in a deleted scene in “Upgrade” he even said that exact statement on the podcast for “Upgrade.” If we were to see Metallo in the tenth season could it be possible during the time Metallo leaves and gives up on people. He would meet Bruno Mannhiem or some other representatives from Inter-gang and he gets rebuilt similar to Superman The Animated Series and has the ability to shoot meteor rock rays from his eyes and other upgrades? Would my fellow want to see that or would be interested by that? And his upgrade could be done with the help of Granny or Darkseid?

@James I just hope unlike “Lois & Clark” if they do drag out this uncertainty between Clois it’s not for like four eps. and even if it is, they shouldn’t get back together until it makes sense and both Lois & Clark figure out how to be in a relationship without having it compromise Clark’s destiny. Opinions fellow Android, iPod, and Zune SHoEligans?

You may remember that Chloe went to Lois and asked her what to do after she learned Clark’s secret. Lois’s response was this:

Chloe: “Lois . . .if . . . if you found out something . . .something
someone didn’t want you to know about them . . .would you tell them?”
Lois: “That depends. Is that person someone you care about?”
Chloe: “Yeah.”
Lois: “And does keeping the secret hurt anyone?”
Chloe: “No.”
Lois: “Then my answer is no. If I really cared about that person, I wouldn’t tell them that I knew, but I would go out of my way to be supportive of them. So that hopefully one day they would be comfortable enough to tell me themselves.”
Chloe: “No offense Lois, but that’s the last thing I expected to hear from you.”
Lois: “I’ve learned the hard way that people keep secrets for a reason. Even from the people they’re closest to.”
Chloe . . . is there something you want to tell me? Are you the one with the secret?”
Chloe: “No. No, it’s not me.”
Lois: “Okay. I’ll see ya in a couple weeks or so.”
Chloe: “Yeah.”
Lois: “Whoever it is that you’re talking about, they will tell you when they’re ready.”

I copied that from a site that had some Smallville quotes so it should be correct.

Either way, this entire scenerio came from Lois. She was the one who inspired Chloe to be patient with Clark in Season 4 and support him. If you’ll recall, Chloe was actually not quite as patient in the earlier seasons even going so far as to try and get answers about Clark out of Mrs. Kent in the episode, “Truth.”

Lois has earned the right to follow her own advice in this case and I’m sure she will. Despite this, her scenerio with Clark is not even remotely the same as it was with both Chloe and Lana. Lana learned Clark’s secret through manipulation. Chloe learned Clark’s secret by accident. Lois learned it because, to be graphic, she knew Clark so well as a man that she recognized his taste and touch and smell. It’s like comparing apples to oranges, imo.

On both levels, because until purchasing the third season of “Lois & Clark” I didn’t realize how short of the time between the two of them having no real serious secrets between each other now to finding out what they have now everything out on the table to oh we are in love again to oh, yeah we’re engaged. It all happened very quickly. So, I hope the writers on Smallville do draw this out a while between Clois this uncertainty for both of them and both of their individual issues and views about falling in love. I do also hope it is similar to Chloe where Lois knows and she is attempting to figure out why he has hidden for so long.

Speaking of Chloe, if Lois knows and she is not letting Clark know that and they’re not talking to each other. Who the heck are they going to talk too about this? With her not being in every ep. in the tenth season? Reason being, I doubt Clark will go to the Spirit World to speak to Jonathan about this and really is Lois going to talk to Ollie about these kinds of things? By the way James awesome theory. What do my fellow Zune, iPod, and Android SHoEligans think?

@Anthony Pa I find it ironic that you chose “Epilogue” as one of your titles just because for us Justice League Unlimited fans that was supposed to be the finale, but it was not the last ep. for that series and if “Epilogue” was announced as the finale there would be like a whole fan group of people crashing the site and Twitter with people tweeting on their Smartphones, Portable Media Players and or Computers saying “This is a sign! Tom Welling and Erica Durance have signed on to do Metropolis… Also, Allison Mack and Justin Harley will do a series called Star City and the first ep. Dinah Lance will die.” Lol. I call that one that will be that day. And I want Edna to quote me herself. Lol.

For the finalie sequence I think it should be either Superman or since the first episode was called “Pilot” maybe having the final one being “Epilogue”. I’m leaning toward the first choice though.

3.Flight
2. Man of steel
1.superman

My Choices:
3.Destiny
2. Metropolis
1. Superman!!!

My point to all this is, I hope Clark doesn’t forget those facts and the idea that he remembers all this is going to make things difficult with Lois in terms of Lois wanting to have such a close romantic relationship with him and Clark hesitant because he doesn’t want her to be just another number in Clark’s people who have left or died because of my secret. What do my fellow Zune, iPod, and Android SHoEligans think?

I also agree that a very weak point of the fifth and sixth seasons was Clark and Lana’s relationship. By the way, how many times did they break up throughout the series? (Whoever can tell me first gets a bone, yeah, that IS what the dog said) After Jonathan’s death I do think Clark would go to Lana first, but then you also have to remember that Martha really had no one to go to besides Clark. So that could be the reason we don’t see a Clark/Lana scene talking about Jonathan, because Clark needs to take care of his mom.

Reckoning was SUPER! That’s all I’ll say about that one.

Your theory on Clark’s second time around in Reckoning is very interesting. I would enjoy that on screen, but, if she knew, what would stop her from outing Clark to Lex or the whole world?

The only thing that would have really changed in season six if she knew, in my opinion, would have to be Lana and Chloe’s relationship, Lex and Clark’s relationship, and probably Clark still loving Lana.

The other major problem I had with the fifth season other than the twenty three times Clana broke up and got back together. Was the placement of eps. and just the fact that one never has a Clark and Lana scene about Jonathan’s death. I don’t believe they ever talk about it and how is that realistic? I’m not saying mention it in every ep. for the rest of the fifth season but not one barn scene about it? I mean how many people here had a death in the family wouldn’t you go to your husband, wife, boyfriend, or girlfriend first besides immediate family?

“Reckoning” as awesome an ep. as it was and it was a great ep. one of the series best. In my opinion, began all the awful we would get as far as Clana is concerned for the rest of the fifth and all of the sixth season.

This is my reasoning if Clark after he went back in time and just told Lana the truth and not purposed to her. Lana being so disgusted that he lied to her for so long and in a way (in her eyes a way responsible for her parents death.) They break up because of it, the rest of the ep. is Clark still trying to prevent Lana’s death but all the while Jonathan’s having his brawl with Lionel and his heart gives out.

I mean really would the rest of the fifth season and the whole sixth season been any different if Lana found out in the way I described? I mean really all the storylines with Phantom Zone Zod, Brainiac, Lex is the vessel, and Lexana would any of that really changed?

The only thing I see changing is Lana and Chloe’s friendship that she has known for so long protecting Clark and all the while she knew everything. Although, she would be angry with Clark than anyone else.

My fellow Zune, iPod, and Android SHoEligans I really want to hear your guys feedback on this one.

To narrow it down, if I could I probably wouldn’t make any drastic changes to the series overall story structure. I think that where I do my “woulda coulda shoulda’s” is in the details. Character choices, what storyline is getting the most focus, etc.

One I watched recently, Lexmas. Surprised myself and loved all the Lex stuff, but the b-story still annoyed me to all get out. “Real” Santa is a suicidal drunk, WB Features allows no mention of Lois in an alt-future, in real-time apparently Lois is left eating ravioli alone at her Talon apt. on Christmas like Fonzie because the Kents didn’t invite her to their party. You have a story tailor made for Lois & Chloe to be working together on this Christmas present drive with Clark as a fun b-story, to include everybody, even if at the time you had to exclude her from Lex’s vision or make it pre-Lois & Clark as partners so they’re still not romantic yet.

But instead she’s in an episode like Hypnotic later on, where she really isn’t allowed to do much of anything and is pretty much wasted on a bad story. In my mind, how much better would it have been had they put her in something like Lexmas where it was really blatantly weird that she wasn’t around as opposed to Hypnotic where her role didn’t give her anything to do of note? It is little details like that as opposed to big sweeping structure changes that usually bug me.

Or in the case of Reckoning, things like Clark asking Lana to marry him completely out of left field. Totally unnecessary IMO, him sharing the secret should’ve been the focus. That and stuff with Jor-El, where instead of let the same events happen but Jor-El being more hands off and just being misinterpreted, he comes off (pre-S8) as just short of evil. And that’s stupid. I mean, the lesson of Reckoning IMO should’ve been “you can’t save everyone”. Instead it turned into “you screwed up so now your dad’s dead”. So the reaction I had watching it last night wasn’t sadness but an angry sadness.

Pre-Brian & Kelly & Tom running the show in S9 and half of S8, with the exception of S1 & S4, there seemed to be a theme where Clark is put at fault for stuff to create manufactured drama rather than to actually learn from organic mistakes and obstacles. Details at turning points back then often times, they’d get ‘em wrong and the characters would suffer. Story would still eventually get to the right spot, but it could’ve been a much more enjoyable ride.

Then I look at something like Salvation, where they get the details right. And how much better that makes everything. To me it’s the little things that make or break episodes, characters and stories.

On a personal note, if Lana found out in “Reckoning” about Clark’s abilities and his origin and it stayed that way. I have always felt the rest of the fifth and sixth would have been better. I mean I’m not Miles and Al but one could have had Clark tell Lana and Clark leaves out the fact he came in the first meteor shower and Lana is so hurt because in her mind “Clark coming to Earth murdered my parents.” And she could have still been with Lex in the sixth season because she first would have been disgusted that Clark hid his secret for so long. Plus, Clark in her eyes responsible for her parents death so she went to Lex for comfort. What do my fellow Android, iPod, and Zune SHoEligans think?

I’m very big on Clark’s right to privacy. I agree that once Clark and Lana were in a serious relationship (particularly a sexual relationship) that she had a right to know. I also think that by the time Season 9 came around and Clark and Lois were contemplating taking showers together ::ahem:: that Lois had a right to know. She had a right to know that the person she was going to get in bed with wasn’t human. But everyone else? Umm…not so much in my opinion. Chloe proved herself trustworthy of Clark’s secret and a good friend. But did she have a right to Clark’s secret? No. I don’t think she did. Clark had a right to privacy and he didn’t owe his secret to anyone but the two women (and there have really ONLY been two that were on that level) that he has openly expressed a desire to share his life with in some capacity.

However, as far as when Clark should’ve told Lana his secret, I’m of the opinion that he didn’t owe her the truth any sooner than Season 5. That was the first time that they dated seriously. The thing is that Clark’s secret IS dangerous and he should only share it with the people he can trust absolutely and the woman he thinks he’s going to spend his life with. In high school, he wasn’t mature enough to make that decision, and it wasn’t just his secret to tell. But by Season 5 he was convinced that he was going to marry Lana and they were in a committed relationship, ergo she deserved to know who he was. Just as Lois deserves to know. But he didn’t owe his secret to anyone else (Lex, Pete, Chloe) at any other time. While some of the ones that have found out have proven they can be trusted, that doesn’t mean that they have a right to the secret (or a right to dictate who he tells it to, *ahem*).

And yet I still blame the writers/showrunners for dragging that drama out for so long. It’s one of the reasons why there are people that enjoy the Clark/Lois relationship, because Lois was the one person in his life and on the show that wasn’t demanding anything from Clark and yet she still challenged him in her own way. And for those that didn’t like Stilleto, that last scene with The Blur calling Lois was a defining moment because it separated Lois from every last frickin other person in Clark’s life because she asked him what HE needed. She wasn’t telling him what to do or how to be a hero, but genuinely just wanted to be there for him. She doesn’t tell him he’s a god or command him to make godlike decisions. Lois is his support, his link to humanity, and she keeps him grounded, and THAT my dear SHoEligans is what makes the Clark/Lois relationship necessary to the story.

For all that I criticized Miles and Al for their years on the series. To be clear, I only really was critical about them for a couple things. Mainly for treating Lana so shabbily especially in seasons 5 and 6. Also, for not having Kal-El be as strong as he should have been especially in seasons 5-7. I will give them a lot of credit for really in seasons 4 and 5 selling the fact that Clark Kent and Lois Lane really don’t like each other and if one were to ask the two of them: Who annoys you more than anyone? they would have said each-other. I also enjoyed the idea of Clark not liking Lois as well as the other way around just because in every incarnation of Superman I had read or seen whether it was The Superman Animated Series, The Donner films, Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, the comics I had read, and The Adventures of Superman with George Reeves. Clark was always attracted or fell in love with Lois Lane from the moment they met. I like the fact in Smallville, Clark didn’t.

At this point, I could see a couple of ways Lois & Clark could go now that Los knows Clark’s secret My top two ways are: Lois & Clark are dating she knows he is now The Blur something happens to her mid-season like a near fatal death and Clark can’t get to her and she freaks out so much and realizes she can’t be The Blur’s girlfriend (similar to the third season of Lois & Clark) or have it be similar to Chloe in the fourth season and Lana in the sixth season Lois knows The Blur and Clark Kent are one in the same and she doesn’t tell Clark that because she knows Clark will overreact.

To that point, I just thought of a question I want to bring up to fellow Zune, Android, and iPod SHoEligans. A lot of people on this website and in other websites give so much flack to the women in Clark’s life (i.e. Alicia, Chloe, and Lana) for being too nosy and trying to chip away at Kal-El to find out the the truth about him or reveal himself to the world. Although, do my fellow Zune, Android, and iPod SHoEligans think there is a fair case to be made that Clark brought most of that on himself at least in the case of him not telling them the truth? I am not saying Alicia’s murder was his fault because it wasn’t. In particular though, with Lana if he just told her a long time ago the truth maybe we wouldn’t have to have seen the unnecessary drama we saw for six seasons?

First though….Great to hear from you Joe. Glad that you guys got back safe from Comic Con. I’m really interested in hearing what was going through your mind when you were interviewing the cast. You seemed very calm and I just wondered if you were feeling nervous interview Mr. Welling because you certainly didn’t show it. Well done. I can only speak for myself but I wasn’t upset that you didn’t ask certain questions. I wanted you to ask Erica something more specific about Clark and Lois because I wanted to here her opinion BUT I totally understand that your time with her was limited. I imagine that if you had had more time you would have asked her something about it. No biggie!! It certainly didn’t take away from my enjoyment of the interviews. In general, the producers have been pretty tight lipped about everything regarding Clark/Lois and Clark’s storyline in general. I’m just not sure they want us to know very many spoilers about them and that’s cool with me. I’m greedy for info. about anything concerning Clark right now….but I’ll take what I can get at this point. lol

@Woo, I appreciate your comment. I love Derek and I think he’s been pretty brilliant (and hilarious) on ShoE. That being said, I’ve been honest (I hope in a polite way) that I disagree entirely with the way he has looked at Clois on some of the podcasts. It doesnt change the fact that I think Derek is awesome. We can disagree with someone from time to time and still think they rock. I think that we all watch the show for different things—all of which are equally valid and important. I watch the show for pretty much everything. I can find something that I love about every character—yes, even Chloe. I love love the stuff with the Luthors in the early seasons and I have a soft spot in my heart for Clark with his parents. I care about every single relationship in Clark’s life and that includes his romantic relationships. I never consider them “filler” as I think that many times the way Clark relates to someone in love usually mirrors his growth and maturity in other aspects of his life…particularly his hero persona.

I actually don’t really like the phrase ” the show is forcing something on me” because I think it’s really just another way of saying that the show is giving focus to something that you don’t really care about. Let me put it another way: Throughout the course of the series there were episodes devoted to Clark’s relationship and friendship with his father, Lex, Lana, Chloe etc. Stretches of episodes that were used to showcase the unique closeness Clark had with each person. There were times when the show spent a great deal of time focusing on a relationship that maybe wasn’t my favorite or the reason why I watched the show. Does that mean that the show was doing something wrong or that it was “forcing” it on me? No. It just means that there are many different facets of Clark’s life that have to get attention on this show. AT the beginning of Season 9, it was time (after 6 years on the show) for Lois and Clark to finally have some time given to their relationship. Mind you, at that point, every other character on the show (Jonathan, Chloe, Lana, Lex etc.) had ALL been given a stretch of episodes where THEY were the focus and their relationship with Clark (whether it be family, friendship or love) was given the focus. Did anyone complain that Lex and Clark’s frienship was being “forced” on them in the early seasons when it got so much focus? How about Chloe and Clark’s friendship when she learned the secret and played such a heavy role? Clark and Lois’s love story is one of the most important and enduring staples of the Superman story. Yes, there are fans that don’t care about the romance. But–just because they don’t care about it doesn’t make it any less important to the story. It needed focus in Season 9 in order to make it real and make it worthy of the history of the mythos.

I think it’s great that you can see it now looking back on everything. Honestly, I’ve long felt that anyone that doesn’t “see” it just hasn’t been paying attention. The show has done a really great job over the years of building the connection between Clark and Lois. If someone takes the time (as you did) to go back and watch the moments between them over the years—the attraction and eventual potential for romance is clear as day. No, I don’t think Clark has been in love with Lois since Season 4. But then again, I don’t believe in love at first sight. I think that most of the time, in order to truly love someone, you have to KNOW them…faults and all. And yes, I think you are correct. I think that sometimes things can just build to a point and then explode out of nowhere. I sort of felt as though Clark took Lois for granted a little bit in Season 8. He knew he had some kind of feelings for her but he wasn’t really man enough to stand up and do anything about it. And then she vanished and it forced him to step up and realize that he was really going to miss her. I don’t think he knew WHAT he felt for her in “Savior”—he just knew that he didn’t want to say goodbye to her. I don’t think he really started to realize that he might love her until the amazing rain scene in “Rabid” and then it all just kind of snowballed from there. But I think it was very well played on the show.

Anyway, I appreciate your comment. I’m sure Natasha will too. I don’t ever need people to agree with me. I just appreciate it when people try to pay attention to what is going on on the screen before snapping judgments. This show isn’t Shakespeare….but I do think that they try very hard to have subtle moments between characters—some of which are very successful and real. But if you don’t pay attention to them then you wake up one day and you can’t figure out how your characters got to where they are.

However, I am more inclined of what you guys saw earlier in the season. The reason for this is because I re-watched “Identity” and “Bride” where there was just a bit of flirtation between Lois & Clark. In particular the scene in the opening scene of “Bride” where Jimmy mentions to Lois that Clark may be interested in her as well and the attraction may be mutual. One sees Lois’ eyes light up like birthday cake candles of the thought of that. Of course, later one sees the chemistry the two had dancing to the smooth jazz of J-Chlo’s mix CD.

@MJ Then we see in later in the ninth season Kal-El even admits to Lois twice once in “Pandora” and in “Salvation” that not having Lois in his life made him realize how much he truly loves her. I remember you pointing this out.

Now, I don’t think Clark has been in love with Lois ever since the fourth season. No, Alicia and Lana from the fourth season on were the only two women in his heart.

But I will say I heard stories like when the World Trade Center went down or when Hurricane Katrina happened people reached out to people they had broken up with or were on the fence about and realized how much they loved that person and it took a tragedy or an awful potential loss to realize how much that person means to them. My point is, it is totally believable now for me to think annoyance and a slight attraction could ultimately lead to love. I mean haven’t we had that one person we couldn’t stand at first and discovered there is a lot more to it than annoyance and attraction? Or at least know a couple from our personal lives like that?

Bottom line I have no problem with Clois on Smallville any longer. I buy it completely now. Looking back on everything.

@Joe I thought you did an awesome job I would have melted being in front of Erica Durance or Mr. Welling. I smiled a little when you mentioned Greg Beeman’s name to Welling because I know you are a fan of that man’s work and so am I. (I mean he directed the iconic Dr. Virgil Swann/Clark scene in “Rosetta!”) Hopefully now that we know for sure Kelly and Brian are writing the script for the 200th ep. It will be either Swarc, Marshall, or Beeman directing the 200th. Thoughts on that, my fellow Android, iPod, and Zune SHoEligans?

We had a great team out there (and back home), we really really did. As far as not asking certain questions, I’ll address that when we get to talk about it and there’s still more to come; Audio interviews, Panel Slide show and hopefully a reactions podcast to Comic Con. The live stream was updated so you can see the entire panel that our good friend Jeremy filmed. It’s the story underneath this one.

Oh, almost forgot: It was awesome meeting people in line (Natasha is the first one that comes to mind), everyone was really really cool. Looking forward to Season 10 even more than I thought was possible.

I would want a JLA spin off more than a Green Arrow one but I would be fine with either at this point. Smallville and Starkville (no confusion, lol.) House of El have really become my hobbies in a lot of ways and I don’t want it to end, really. What are my fellow Android, iPod, and Zune SHoEligans thoughts? Would you rather see a Green Arrow spin off or a JLA spin off if you had the choice?

I don’t believe anyone has mentioned this on SHoE’s website but Happy Birthday to DC. 75 years of awesome, I have always preferred you over marvel and let’s hope for another 75 years.

And since this is a Superman podcast, I don’t think the SHoE guys are going to do a separate post for this, but has everyone/anyone seen Batman: Under the Red Hood. If it helps for revelance sake, there is a “veiled” Superman reference in the beginning of the movie. Anyway, I thought it was kind of (re: very) bad a**, so I just wanted to know if anyone else saw it.

One thing that has bothered me about the writers of Smallville and I understand it is a TV series and it works a lot of the time when they do it and this in regards to ep. 200 is they never want to close the door on a character (i.e. Lana.) I comprehend that they always want to bring characters back and it is good to keep that door open for a possible return. I just think this may be one of the reasons a lot of my fellow iPod, Android, and Zune SHoEligans have such an issue with Lana.

I have said this before on other posts, my feeling always was with Lana if she just never returned after the third season when she went to Paris and came back now for the 200th ep. I think more fans would be more looking forward to her return or when she left in the seventh season and now she came back for the 200th.

The same kind of goes for Pete as a character if he never returned in “Hero” and came back now for 200th I think a lot of people would be less tremendous for Pete to return. Thoughts, my fellow Pod, Android, and Zune SHoEligans?

I could see the writers have Clark write stories and make a name for himself as a journalist off camera, just like they did with his training with Jor-El from season 9. And just focus on the stuff that Kelly and Brian are wanting to use in each episode of the final season.

And I too believe that Clark needs to transition the glasses into Clarks persona over the course of the course of the season, before he dons the costume.

I mean, one could have Clark in a similar scenario like he was in “Bulletproof” trying to help a family that there apartment building is purposely being contaminated with mold by people in Inter-gang so they can blow up the apartment complex and collect the cash.

Point being if this is Clark’s last steps to becoming what he will become. One needs to see all the elements of the iconic character we all know and love since 1938. Opinions, fellow Android, Zune, and iPod SHoEligans?

Honestly though, well done Joe, for holding yourself together in that room during all of those interviews. I want to hear you relive that moment on a podcast with Steve & Derek, because I’m sure it’s still a bit surreal that this day actually happened. Loved all of the questions asked and glad SHoE presented itself as a dedicated fan community that is well versed in the Superman & comic mythology as well as a fan of the art & technical side of the show – attention to costuming & set details and appreciation for the directing and acting talent that has been displayed throughout all of these years.

I’ll agree w/ others who have posted that the only other question I would have loved to have heard asked was in regards to Clark developing in his DP reporter side (and competing w/ other reporters like Lois & Cat for stories) as well as stepping closer to putting on the suit – the latter definitely being the weightier mantle to carry, of course, but the former being no less important in my mind – as just as much as I want to believe that a man can fly, I want to believe that no one else outside of Clark’s “current” inner circle would ever believe that the two personae are one and the same.

Still, I’m totally pumped for this year and also (like Cassidy) a bit emotional that this is the final year, but I’m ready to sit back, relax and enjoy every minute of it! Especially for as long as you guys want to continue “geeking out” about Smallville!

And even after GJ announced that he’s writing Booster Gold and Blue Beetle, I was more excited that Deadshot was appearing with the Suicide Squad. My favorite version of him being from the Timmverse, I’m looking forward to what SV does with the character. (I love that Smallville pulls elements from every version of Superman canon, comics, live action, and animated. They rock that way.)

I totally agree that Joe seemed very at ease. I keep wondering how he managed to not look nervous. Because he really did seem relaxed and chill. Way to go on that Joe!

JOE! DUDE! How was it talking to frickin’ SUPERMAN?! You got to talk to the man himself. And LOIS FRICKIN LANE!!!! I bow to you for keeping your cool because my nerves would’ve shown just holding the microphone. You did awesome and you asked great questions. *bows*

Alright, reading comments now.

I just kept looking at Joe and thinking, “Is he nervous?? Because I would be nervous!” LOL I’m sort of dying for Joe to tell us what was going through his head when he was interview Tom Welling. Was it hard to come up with something to say to him?

thanks for them!

What no “Who do you think is the hottest person on the show is” question this year?

Thanks for the classy interviews and good quality videos.

However, you’ll notice that Kathleen does say that she appreciated the podcast. She just expresses dissapointment that she didn’t hear about Clois. Now, as I’ve stated, I don’t think that was on purpose at all. Derek confirmed that there was a reason that Joe tried to ask about Chollie since Allison and Justin weren’t present and because their relationship is their main plotline right now. Which made a ton of sense. Frankly, I think it’s a bit out of line to resort to name calling like “ungrateful.” The truth is that it’s ok for fans to ask about their favorite characters. You can be extremely grateful for an interview and still question something. Derek was mature and clear in his response and I imagine his response put everything into perspective for anyone that was questioning it.

Second, I think it’s a bit unfair that you are putting words in someone’s mouth. I don’t see one post on here that says that everything needs to revolve around Clois. Not one.

Third, as a Clois fan myself, I would appreciate you not insinuating that our “fan group” thinks that everything should revolve around them. I’ve been one of the biggest advocates on this for Clark Kent as an individual character. I never forget that this show is about his journey and I’m equally as interested in every villian he fights, every challenge he faces. I adore his relationship with his mother and father to pieces and I love watching him grow and change as a character. I’m also a huge fan of Cassidy Freeman. If you were to actually visit, Divine INtervention, you would find that I am not alone. Many of the Clois fans feel the same way. Either way, while the show does not “revolve” around Clois—it is the most important relationship in the Superman story and at this stage in the game, it is the central relationship on the show and therefore an important and vital part of the closure of Clark’s story for many fans.

It would be really nice of people were allowed to express their opinions without being called names. The truth is that we are all drawn together because we love the same show. No one fan is more worthy or important than another. At the end of the day, everyone watches for different things and that is valid. Clark will always be the star of the show and everything related to him and connected to him including villians, family, friends and love will always be the crux of the show. That’s just the way it is.

Thank you again Derek for your mature response and thank you for your continued coverage of the show.

@MJ That is a great question. One of the minor things I would like to see in the tenth season is two things Clark in glasses. (Stylish or not. Maybe a Dean Cain style or the type in “Whisper.”) And Lois & Clark working together more as the iconic journalism team working on writing stories.

@MJ I’m also assuming if he flys, he isn’t sure how he is doing it similar to when he got his other powers like when he got his x-ray vision or his super hearing. What do my fellow iPod, Android, and Zune SHoEligans think?

What do we think? Is Clark flying or leaping in that shot? Obviously, Brian is being coy. Is it possible thar Clark might fly and not really have any idea how he did it? So maybe it’s something he does in the moment but then has no idea how to duplicate it again. Maybe he has to ask Kara when she comes back? Damn those producers for keeping us in suspense.

I wasn’t upset that Erica’s interview was shorter either. Erica (and Tom OBVIOUSLY) were the most in demand that day in terms of interviews. I feel like I’ve seen probably 50 interviews at this point with both of them and they’ve all been brief. I figured that neither of them got a ton of time with anyone. I’m grateful for even 30 seconds at this point!

Do you know what I wish someone had asked though? (Not just Joe but ANYONE). I wish someone had asked if the show was going to really show Clark embracing his job as a journalist and discovering a love for the work. I know he’s going to be working with Cat Grant in the second episode but I really do wonder if the show is going to take the time to expand on Clark’s life at the Planet a little more. I hope so!

Thanks again for the interviews!

That being said, Erica did leave and we asked her to come back and she did. So no, we did not get much time with her. Lois has many traits, storylines, and plot devices that don’t just involve Clark – and Joe asked things that specifically came out of the panel earlier that morning so the actors would indulge and enlighten. He did ask about Lois knowing about Clark, which I think was one of the most important questions to ask Erica, of all. But truthfully (and I do not mean this negatively) what are Oliver and Chloe’s biggest story right now? Each other. And having neither Allison or Justin to interview on film made it imperative we ask one of the executive producers about them – and since that is the biggest plotline with those two characters at the moment (their relationship) yes, that was the question asked.
It wasn’t to snub a fanbase at all and I honestly believe all sides of the fandom were represented equally in that sense, and Joe did an awesome job at doing that. I don’t think it needs defending because if you stop and look at what was asked vs. who we got to talk to vs. the answers we got – you’ll see it was all very non-biased, and definitely not meant to ’snub’. But I’m sorry you feel that way Kathleen; Joe did what he was given time for and what he felt was important based on what was said during the panel.

It was so funny that Cassidy Freeman mentioned her Mom. We were having a discussion a few months ago on one of the boards after “Sacrifice” aired and I remember saying that I bet Cassidy’s mother hated seeing her “dead” in the body bag in that scene. And then we were talking about how her mother also had to watch her get the dirt thrown on her face in “Pandora.” I know my mother would hate that! Tess is another character that I am just totally confused about but in a good way! I truly have no idea whether she is ultimately going to be good or wind up a true villian. Makes things interesting and Cassidy is a doll.

Erica was lovely as usual but that is nothing new. @Woo, I agree that she does come off as as very sweet and deep person. I think she’s very sensitive. But what I love most about Erica is that she loves Superman so so much. She was a comics fan before she was cast and she loves Lois Lane as much as the Lois fans do because she, like us, grew up admiring the character. I love that she always brings everything back to Superman. Erica always lets you know that she understands that this is Clark’s show. It’s HIS story. She gave another interview at Comic Con where she said that Lois’s role was to make Clark’s life lighter and happier—that that was ALWAYS Lois’s role. That doesn’t diminish what a strong character Lois is in her own right at all. But Erica has such a strong sense of who’s story the show is telling which I really do respect. She knows that the show is ultimately about Clark’s journey and she never loses sight of that. I LOVE that about her.

I think Tom has become progressively more comfortable with interviews over the years and he actually seemed to be having a great time at Comic Con this year. I think the presence of John S. helped him to relax. When you watch videos of Tom from 2001 or 2002 the difference in his demeanor and his overall maturity is just stunning. It sounds cliche but he really was still a “boy” when the show started and he’s grown into this very charming man. He’s a lot less awkward than he used to be. It’s just so funny that his journey has sort of mirrored Clark’s journey in that way. I liked his comments about the “theme” for the year. I like the idea that this year there is always a light at the end of the tunnel and the belief that they will succeed. That’s great to hear!

Joe, I have to ask….were you nervous interviewing Tom? I was watching you on the video and I thought you seemed a bit star struck. haha. But I don’t blame you at all! What Smallville fan wouldn’t be nervous talking to Tom???

@Kathleen….you know….I do understand what you are saying and I will totally admit that I was a little let down by that too. I do wish that with Erica standing right there that Joe had asked one question about Clark and Lois. Or at least ask Brian or Kelly one question about them. Because, yes, there have been a ton of Clois fans who have supported this website and these podcasts. But, honestly….I don’t think it was intentional. My guess is that Joe might have forgotten.

I understand what you are saying with the constant focus on Chollie. I totally admit that that has been bugging me as well. But I do have a theory on that.

At this point, I think that Brian and Kelly have almost taken the Clark and Lois fans for granted. Now, let me explain. The reality is that they KNOW that the Clois fans are here until the end. We are loyal to the show. They know that Clois fans are going to watch until the very last episode because they get a happy ending. They don’t need to woo Clois fans into watching Season 10 of Smallville. All of the Clois centered episodes last season did well in the ratings. “Idol” was still the highest rated episode of the season next to “Absolute Justice” and “Charade” was the only episode in the final block of the season (next to the finale) to get solid ratings. To put it bluntly: The Clois fans aren’t going anywhere.
They aren’t revealing a ton about Clark and Lois right now because their relationship is a huge plot point in the season and it’s a draw for a ton of people. Whereas, the thing with Chloe and Oliver is a temporary situation. There isn’t a huge established fanbase for that relationship. There is a small group of die hards. So they HAVE to build up that relationship in spoilers and in interviews. It’s not going to get people tuning in just on it’s own. I also think that for better or worse, Brian and Kelly are trying to keep the Chloe fans happy since Allison is leaving. Do I think they’ve gone a bit overboard? Yeah, I kind of do. I think they go out of their way at every turn to kiss Chloe’s butt. And yes, I think it’s borderline ridiculous. But I understand why they are doing it from a business perspective. They want to keep the fans happy so they build it up and build it up. It’s not that the producers don’t care about Clois. It’s actually just the oppposite. Clark’s story (including his relationship) is the entire crux of the show. They don’t NEED to build it up because people will watch it no matter what.

Anyway, all that is to say that while I understand your dissapointment, I imagine it was not intentional on Joe’s part. He probably just forgot. Which yes….is dissapointing. But it wasn’t meant as a snub.

What can I say about John Schneider’s interview. I am so happy that he is back and not just for one episode. You can tell from his interview how much he loves the role of Jonathan Kent and how honored he is to be able to portray such an important character and influence in this Clark Kent’s life.

I laughed at Tom’s “25″ episodes. That was his witty sense of humor that we’ve all heard about from his co-stars shining through.

200 sounds awesome as does all the plans they have in mind for the final season.

Again thank you!

John S. I can see why Derek speaks so highly of him now. I always thought and still think he is class act and much respect for him. Total pro about his work and giving us SHoEligans not too many spoilers about what will happen when Jonathan Kent returns but we know it is going to be huge of course his death is still the most significant to the series. Lionel’s is close but not as big as Jonathan’s.

I thought what John S. spoke about is very insightful about Clark being at a crossroads if one were to look at Clark’s journey over the last nine years it may be broken into three categories: Seasons 1-4 “I am human, I’m not Kryptonian, I may have Kryptonian blood in me, but I am human.” 5-7 “I know I am not human, I have all these gifts I have to choose what path I am going to go down. I still have some time to figure it out.” 8-10 “My time is up, I know what path I need to go down but how can I possible handle this?” And truly like John S. sort of mentioned the only person that can help Clark through that decision is his Dad. Not his father Jor-El, not Lionel, not Martian Manhunter. Jonathan.

Loved the interview with Cassidy. I’m glad that Mercy has finally figured out after getting left in a twisted wreck for the last two seasons. She finally begins to comprehend she isn’t as tough as she thinks she is. At least not physically.

Miss Durance very deep woman. I can tell by this interview much like Welling she has a very deep understanding of telling a story via script and acting. I’m glad she is ready for anything this season.

Kelly and Brian so appreciate the fans I can hear it in their voices. And they know how intelligent the fans are, I can tell by Kelly’s reaction by how she was so impressed by Hummerich mentioning Chloe’s green leather jacket.

Tom Welling, my lanta… He does sound so shy! Man, I can tell by his vocal tones that he is not comfortable doing interviews. Does not make him a horrible man but I am just blew away by the fact that everything guest performers or people he has worked with say about him is true. He just sounds so shy and so humble it is just great. A lot of respect for him for that. Sounds like he really is more like a go between Exec. Producer than a guy who approves story lines along with Sounders and Peterson. Reason being it sounds like to me he has only a vague idea where the writers are going to go as far as specific arcs for the characters.

Thank you guys for these interviews, from a podcast stand point I’d really like Steve and Derek to interview John S. once more if they could that’d be awesome.

After this, I’m more looking forward to the tenth season now more than ever especially for 10×04. “Little of the past, present, and future.” (Geekwood.) @MJ @since1938 @Tim what do you all think? And what about my fellow Zune, Android, and iPod SHoEligans?

PS: I too noticed the green jacket.

Any reason why you didn’t get to interview Justin?

I’m sooo happy you asked about Chollie and about the green jacket! We were all dying to know if they did that on purpose!

Great questions, you got some really good interviews!