SHoE Exclusive! SDCC 2010 Smallville Interviews
After Sunday’s Smallville panel at Comic Con, the press was invited to sit down with the stars of the new season and discuss what they saw in the footage, and talk about what’s to come. Joe was on hand at the junket so check out the video below for some new spoilers. Also, be sure to check out www.kryptonsite.com for some alternate interviews from Craig on the same day which contain new information as well!
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@MJ I know what you are saying about some people complaining about some aspects about some things and not others. Some people (who honestly didn’t know anything about this character other knowing who he was, before Smallville) didn’t want Clark and Lex to stop being friends. Therefore, I don’t see any SHoEligans now nor in the past going “Why do Clark and Lex have to be enemies? Why can’t they still be friends?!” So, you bring up a good point.
For all that I criticized Miles and Al for their years on the series. To be clear, I only really was critical about them for a couple things. Mainly for treating Lana so shabbily especially in seasons 5 and 6. Also, for not having Kal-El be as strong as he should have been especially in seasons 5-7. I will give them a lot of credit for really in seasons 4 and 5 selling the fact that Clark Kent and Lois Lane really don’t like each other and if one were to ask the two of them: Who annoys you more than anyone? they would have said each-other. I also enjoyed the idea of Clark not liking Lois as well as the other way around just because in every incarnation of Superman I had read or seen whether it was The Superman Animated Series, The Donner films, Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, the comics I had read, and The Adventures of Superman with George Reeves. Clark was always attracted or fell in love with Lois Lane from the moment they met. I like the fact in Smallville, Clark didn’t.
At this point, I could see a couple of ways Lois & Clark could go now that Los knows Clark’s secret My top two ways are: Lois & Clark are dating she knows he is now The Blur something happens to her mid-season like a near fatal death and Clark can’t get to her and she freaks out so much and realizes she can’t be The Blur’s girlfriend (similar to the third season of Lois & Clark) or have it be similar to Chloe in the fourth season and Lana in the sixth season Lois knows The Blur and Clark Kent are one in the same and she doesn’t tell Clark that because she knows Clark will overreact.
To that point, I just thought of a question I want to bring up to fellow Zune, Android, and iPod SHoEligans. A lot of people on this website and in other websites give so much flack to the women in Clark’s life (i.e. Alicia, Chloe, and Lana) for being too nosy and trying to chip away at Kal-El to find out the the truth about him or reveal himself to the world. Although, do my fellow Zune, Android, and iPod SHoEligans think there is a fair case to be made that Clark brought most of that on himself at least in the case of him not telling them the truth? I am not saying Alicia’s murder was his fault because it wasn’t. In particular though, with Lana if he just told her a long time ago the truth maybe we wouldn’t have to have seen the unnecessary drama we saw for six seasons?
I have been reading up on Deadshot. I hope he and Ollie have a lot of interaction because apparently they are no strangers to each other in the comics.
@Woo, Like MJ I did appreciate you actually taking the time to go back and watch Clark and Lois’ progression to where they are now.
However, as far as when Clark should’ve told Lana his secret, I’m of the opinion that he didn’t owe her the truth any sooner than Season 5. That was the first time that they dated seriously. The thing is that Clark’s secret IS dangerous and he should only share it with the people he can trust absolutely and the woman he thinks he’s going to spend his life with. In high school, he wasn’t mature enough to make that decision, and it wasn’t just his secret to tell. But by Season 5 he was convinced that he was going to marry Lana and they were in a committed relationship, ergo she deserved to know who he was. Just as Lois deserves to know. But he didn’t owe his secret to anyone else (Lex, Pete, Chloe) at any other time. While some of the ones that have found out have proven they can be trusted, that doesn’t mean that they have a right to the secret (or a right to dictate who he tells it to, *ahem*).
And yet I still blame the writers/showrunners for dragging that drama out for so long. It’s one of the reasons why there are people that enjoy the Clark/Lois relationship, because Lois was the one person in his life and on the show that wasn’t demanding anything from Clark and yet she still challenged him in her own way. And for those that didn’t like Stilleto, that last scene with The Blur calling Lois was a defining moment because it separated Lois from every last frickin other person in Clark’s life because she asked him what HE needed. She wasn’t telling him what to do or how to be a hero, but genuinely just wanted to be there for him. She doesn’t tell him he’s a god or command him to make godlike decisions. Lois is his support, his link to humanity, and she keeps him grounded, and THAT my dear SHoEligans is what makes the Clark/Lois relationship necessary to the story.
Natasha, I can’t say much else except for….WOW. Totally agree.
I’m very big on Clark’s right to privacy. I agree that once Clark and Lana were in a serious relationship (particularly a sexual relationship) that she had a right to know. I also think that by the time Season 9 came around and Clark and Lois were contemplating taking showers together ::ahem:: that Lois had a right to know. She had a right to know that the person she was going to get in bed with wasn’t human. But everyone else? Umm…not so much in my opinion. Chloe proved herself trustworthy of Clark’s secret and a good friend. But did she have a right to Clark’s secret? No. I don’t think she did. Clark had a right to privacy and he didn’t owe his secret to anyone but the two women (and there have really ONLY been two that were on that level) that he has openly expressed a desire to share his life with in some capacity.
@MJ and @since1938 Yeah, I totally see what both of you are saying. And since1938 you bring up a good about “Stiletto.” Lois is really the only woman Clark has had deep romantic feelings for, that has not asked him for anything. Nor has she really built him up as something larger than he actually is. When Alicia, Lana, and Chloe all found out about Clark’s origins they try to push him to either reveal himself to the world or become “The Man of Steel” when he is not ready to do either. Not that any of those three women didn’t love Clark because each of them proved they did. But they didn’t truly “get” him like Lois does.
On a personal note, if Lana found out in “Reckoning” about Clark’s abilities and his origin and it stayed that way. I have always felt the rest of the fifth and sixth would have been better. I mean I’m not Miles and Al but one could have had Clark tell Lana and Clark leaves out the fact he came in the first meteor shower and Lana is so hurt because in her mind “Clark coming to Earth murdered my parents.” And she could have still been with Lex in the sixth season because she first would have been disgusted that Clark hid his secret for so long. Plus, Clark in her eyes responsible for her parents death so she went to Lex for comfort. What do my fellow Android, iPod, and Zune SHoEligans think?
Jumpin’ in if I may, as I’m re-watching the series this summer and actually just finished with Reckoning last night. For me to break down each stage of the show would take forever because there’s so much content. And I think it’s hard to say “they should’ve done X here”, because it all builds off of what came before and who’s to say we get to where we are now if things were done differently. Even some stuff I totally hated, I would have a hard time wishing away the structure that led us to now. For example, Season 9 was far and away the best for me and one of my absolute favorite storylines – Lois doing her best Marty McFly – came out of a finale I absolutely hated.
To narrow it down, if I could I probably wouldn’t make any drastic changes to the series overall story structure. I think that where I do my “woulda coulda shoulda’s” is in the details. Character choices, what storyline is getting the most focus, etc.
One I watched recently, Lexmas. Surprised myself and loved all the Lex stuff, but the b-story still annoyed me to all get out. “Real” Santa is a suicidal drunk, WB Features allows no mention of Lois in an alt-future, in real-time apparently Lois is left eating ravioli alone at her Talon apt. on Christmas like Fonzie because the Kents didn’t invite her to their party. You have a story tailor made for Lois & Chloe to be working together on this Christmas present drive with Clark as a fun b-story, to include everybody, even if at the time you had to exclude her from Lex’s vision or make it pre-Lois & Clark as partners so they’re still not romantic yet.
But instead she’s in an episode like Hypnotic later on, where she really isn’t allowed to do much of anything and is pretty much wasted on a bad story. In my mind, how much better would it have been had they put her in something like Lexmas where it was really blatantly weird that she wasn’t around as opposed to Hypnotic where her role didn’t give her anything to do of note? It is little details like that as opposed to big sweeping structure changes that usually bug me.
Or in the case of Reckoning, things like Clark asking Lana to marry him completely out of left field. Totally unnecessary IMO, him sharing the secret should’ve been the focus. That and stuff with Jor-El, where instead of let the same events happen but Jor-El being more hands off and just being misinterpreted, he comes off (pre-S8) as just short of evil. And that’s stupid. I mean, the lesson of Reckoning IMO should’ve been “you can’t save everyone”. Instead it turned into “you screwed up so now your dad’s dead”. So the reaction I had watching it last night wasn’t sadness but an angry sadness.
Pre-Brian & Kelly & Tom running the show in S9 and half of S8, with the exception of S1 & S4, there seemed to be a theme where Clark is put at fault for stuff to create manufactured drama rather than to actually learn from organic mistakes and obstacles. Details at turning points back then often times, they’d get ‘em wrong and the characters would suffer. Story would still eventually get to the right spot, but it could’ve been a much more enjoyable ride.
Then I look at something like Salvation, where they get the details right. And how much better that makes everything. To me it’s the little things that make or break episodes, characters and stories.
@Luke…Right On! Especially about Clark being at fault for drama’s sake rather than to learn a lesson. It’s one of the reasons I didn’t really follow through on my re-watch post-Red. Another thing I thought was weird is that we saw eeeeeeveryone else’s reaction to Clark dying in Hidden but it’s like Lois doesn’t even know it happened. Oh wel, hindsight and all that. The point is that in some left-turn-at-Albuquerque way, it all led to up to Season 9’s epicness.
@since1938 and @Luke See, this is one of my major problems with the fifth season and one of the reasons why I don’t rank it as high as I rank the third, eighth, or ninth seasons. I love “Lexmas” it is one of my favorite eps. of the fifth season. For the Lex stuff not the Clark stuff. I mean did one really need Kal-El talking to a hammered Kris Kringle about the meaning of Christmas? I mean that ep. is one of the few eps. where one could have Clana talking about their future together and both of them unsure because Lana doesn’t truly know him. And Chloe and The Kents playing corner person for the respective party. And how awesome would it have been in Lex’s fantasy to see Lois & Clark together as a couple engaged? Reason being, Lex’s fantasy really had everyone in his life (except Lionel) love and respect him. But he had everyone in his life safe and happy.
The other major problem I had with the fifth season other than the twenty three times Clana broke up and got back together. Was the placement of eps. and just the fact that one never has a Clark and Lana scene about Jonathan’s death. I don’t believe they ever talk about it and how is that realistic? I’m not saying mention it in every ep. for the rest of the fifth season but not one barn scene about it? I mean how many people here had a death in the family wouldn’t you go to your husband, wife, boyfriend, or girlfriend first besides immediate family?
“Reckoning” as awesome an ep. as it was and it was a great ep. one of the series best. In my opinion, began all the awful we would get as far as Clana is concerned for the rest of the fifth and all of the sixth season.
This is my reasoning if Clark after he went back in time and just told Lana the truth and not purposed to her. Lana being so disgusted that he lied to her for so long and in a way (in her eyes a way responsible for her parents death.) They break up because of it, the rest of the ep. is Clark still trying to prevent Lana’s death but all the while Jonathan’s having his brawl with Lionel and his heart gives out.
I mean really would the rest of the fifth season and the whole sixth season been any different if Lana found out in the way I described? I mean really all the storylines with Phantom Zone Zod, Brainiac, Lex is the vessel, and Lexana would any of that really changed?
The only thing I see changing is Lana and Chloe’s friendship that she has known for so long protecting Clark and all the while she knew everything. Although, she would be angry with Clark than anyone else.
My fellow Zune, iPod, and Android SHoEligans I really want to hear your guys feedback on this one.
@Woo You have some very good and interesting points there. Lexmas, and I’ll agree with you, is a great episode indeed, and it would have been super-amazing to see Clark and Lois engaged. Wouldn’t that have been the best!?!
I also agree that a very weak point of the fifth and sixth seasons was Clark and Lana’s relationship. By the way, how many times did they break up throughout the series? (Whoever can tell me first gets a bone, yeah, that IS what the dog said) After Jonathan’s death I do think Clark would go to Lana first, but then you also have to remember that Martha really had no one to go to besides Clark. So that could be the reason we don’t see a Clark/Lana scene talking about Jonathan, because Clark needs to take care of his mom.
Reckoning was SUPER! That’s all I’ll say about that one.
Your theory on Clark’s second time around in Reckoning is very interesting. I would enjoy that on screen, but, if she knew, what would stop her from outing Clark to Lex or the whole world?
The only thing that would have really changed in season six if she knew, in my opinion, would have to be Lana and Chloe’s relationship, Lex and Clark’s relationship, and probably Clark still loving Lana.
After going through S3-9 Clark never really trusted Lana and with good reason, uptill S8 she was either teaming up with Lex turning into evil witches or dateing nutters and the whole time blaming Clark for it all which allways peeded me off.
during the whole time Ma and Pa were saying look your going to meet someone one day but not Lana.
@Ben Yeah, I never liked Lana. The only times I might have were seasons 1-4, although I liked her a little bit throughout season five, but then there was Thirst. That ruined Lana for me.
@Michael J. Petty See, I don’t know as angry Lana would be to Clark if she knew the truth after “Reckoning” I don’t know if she would do that because as angry as she would have been. She still would’ve loved Clark.
If Lois knows Clark’s secret in the tenth season and by all rights from what we have seen from Comic Con trailers and at the end of 09×22 she does. I hope the writers bring an old issue and something that Honkin’ has said that Smallville has always had to create strong drama and good writing. Also, a cornerstone of the series is the idea of secrets. And I re-watched 03×21 when Pete leaves for Wichita and he pretty much tells Clark how much of a burden Clark’s secret was for him. And Clark even says in 08×09 to Chloe when she begins to lose her memory so many people he has either had close ties to or loved has either had to leave or die because of his secret. Alicia, Lionel, Pete, Jonathan, Lana, Jimmy, and even before Lex became “the villain of the story” him finding out the truth about Clark drove him mad since “Pilot” with the bridge.
My point to all this is, I hope Clark doesn’t forget those facts and the idea that he remembers all this is going to make things difficult with Lois in terms of Lois wanting to have such a close romantic relationship with him and Clark hesitant because he doesn’t want her to be just another number in Clark’s people who have left or died because of my secret. What do my fellow Zune, iPod, and Android SHoEligans think?
As some of you’ve already said the showrunners are keeping pretty quiet about the whole Clark&Lois issue..but what Erica said in one of the interwiews might be one of the ways they are going to deal with it.Lois knows the truth,but she’s trying to decide,to figure out what does she want for their relationship in the future..how SHE can contribute,what she can bring to the table,what might her role be in a relationship with such a man..what does it all mean for her and for him as well..or what would it mean.She’s gonna struggle with that probably quite a bit!
That’s why..after Clark survives and all the drama about that’s over..she’s gonna go away for a while,to think.And I think Africa is gonna come in handy..an opportunity will present itself ans she’s gonna take it.The way how and why in particular that’s going to happen we’ll see..and I can’t wait to see how it is all gonna go down and what she’s gonna find while in Africa..as well as I can’t wait to see everything else,season 10 in general!I’m sure we’ll all enjoy it very much!!
As far as Clark goes..he probably won’t be sure whether she knows or not and when he is going to find out and how I can only guess,but he will at some point and I’m not gonna guess or anything I want to be suprised this last season!
But I agree that he owes her the truth if he wants to be with her cause as we’ve seen in season 9 at this point it is a valid question is she safer knowing or not knowing if she’s with him..even arround him and the second thing if he wants an intimate relationship with her at this point he needs to fully open up to her,cause she has a right to know and then freely choose who she gets involved with and whether she gets involved with him at all..in principle!!
The fact that she already knows makes it that much more interesting how they resolve it and I can’t wait to see it..not to mention all the other stuff they definitely have in store for us this year!!!
Great conversations! New topic every one, what would YOU like the series’ finale to be titled? Here of some of my choices, and I would like to see some of your ideas.
My Choices:
3.Destiny
2. Metropolis
1. Superman!!!
@Tim i think you said it all but for me it would be
3.Flight
2. Man of steel
1.superman
I believe that Flight could be used for a tenth season episode title but I’d prefer it to be one that happens before the finale. That also goes for Clark flying.
For the finalie sequence I think it should be either Superman or since the first episode was called “Pilot” maybe having the final one being “Epilogue”. I’m leaning toward the first choice though.
@Tim For me, I would only want “Superman.” But I had to make two other choices it would have to be either “Smallville” I can’t believe they have gone nine seasons and not used “Smallville” as a title for an ep. Finally and it may be kind of a lame title but since the first ep. was entitled “Pilot” why shouldn’t the title of the final ep. be “Finale?”
@Anthony Pa I find it ironic that you chose “Epilogue” as one of your titles just because for us Justice League Unlimited fans that was supposed to be the finale, but it was not the last ep. for that series and if “Epilogue” was announced as the finale there would be like a whole fan group of people crashing the site and Twitter with people tweeting on their Smartphones, Portable Media Players and or Computers saying “This is a sign! Tom Welling and Erica Durance have signed on to do Metropolis… Also, Allison Mack and Justin Harley will do a series called Star City and the first ep. Dinah Lance will die.” Lol. I call that one that will be that day. And I want Edna to quote me herself. Lol.
@James My viewpoint, this is sounding very similar to the tail end of the second season and the beginning half of the third season of “Lois & Clark” where Clark was debating on telling Lois his secret at all or if he should just leave Metropolis in general and just not tell her where he is going too. But this time it is more Lois’ decision more than anything else and remember in “Lois & Clark” Lois only knew Clark’s secret for only a day until she decided to tell him that she knew the truth about Clark being “The Man of Tomorrow.” It also similar to Chloe finding out after “Pariah” and “Blank.” Waiting for Clark to come to her. I personally would love to see a similar thing with Clois.
On both levels, because until purchasing the third season of “Lois & Clark” I didn’t realize how short of the time between the two of them having no real serious secrets between each other now to finding out what they have now everything out on the table to oh we are in love again to oh, yeah we’re engaged. It all happened very quickly. So, I hope the writers on Smallville do draw this out a while between Clois this uncertainty for both of them and both of their individual issues and views about falling in love. I do also hope it is similar to Chloe where Lois knows and she is attempting to figure out why he has hidden for so long.
Speaking of Chloe, if Lois knows and she is not letting Clark know that and they’re not talking to each other. Who the heck are they going to talk too about this? With her not being in every ep. in the tenth season? Reason being, I doubt Clark will go to the Spirit World to speak to Jonathan about this and really is Lois going to talk to Ollie about these kinds of things? By the way James awesome theory. What do my fellow Zune, iPod, and Android SHoEligans think?
@Woo..about what you said it being more of a Lois’ decision..agreed..not only Lois’,but compared to L&C yeah! Also I agree that the uncertainty and issues you’re talking about are going to be there for a while when they’re appart and maybe somewhat longer than that,but I don’t believe it’s gonna be dragged out for too long,cause the way I see it it’s just not in Lois’ character to be as patient lol! And I don’t think those issues,views and uncertainty is gonna be about falling in love..they’re both sure about that by now..it’s gonna be more about duty and responsibility and how to fit that with them being in love.
About the title for the finale…definitely SUPERMAN!!
Oh and BTW..I’ve been away from this site for quite a while now cause I’m very far away from home..job related and where I’m at using the net is..well it’s a long story,but I just wanted you to know that I’ve missed all of you guys and the ShoE cast and I’ve missed everything Smallville..so I guess I’ve got a lot of reading and catching up to do as far as everything at this site and all of your posts and comments go!!
@Woo, I’d just like to point out that Chloe choosing to wait to tell Clark that she knew his secret was based on advice that she got from Lois in “Pariah.” Allowing someone to keep their secrets and giving them space belongs to Lois Lane on Smallville. Her cousin, Chloe, borrowed it after talking to her. :)
You may remember that Chloe went to Lois and asked her what to do after she learned Clark’s secret. Lois’s response was this:
Chloe: “Lois . . .if . . . if you found out something . . .something
someone didn’t want you to know about them . . .would you tell them?”
Lois: “That depends. Is that person someone you care about?”
Chloe: “Yeah.”
Lois: “And does keeping the secret hurt anyone?”
Chloe: “No.”
Lois: “Then my answer is no. If I really cared about that person, I wouldn’t tell them that I knew, but I would go out of my way to be supportive of them. So that hopefully one day they would be comfortable enough to tell me themselves.”
Chloe: “No offense Lois, but that’s the last thing I expected to hear from you.”
Lois: “I’ve learned the hard way that people keep secrets for a reason. Even from the people they’re closest to.”
Chloe . . . is there something you want to tell me? Are you the one with the secret?”
Chloe: “No. No, it’s not me.”
Lois: “Okay. I’ll see ya in a couple weeks or so.”
Chloe: “Yeah.”
Lois: “Whoever it is that you’re talking about, they will tell you when they’re ready.”
I copied that from a site that had some Smallville quotes so it should be correct.
Either way, this entire scenerio came from Lois. She was the one who inspired Chloe to be patient with Clark in Season 4 and support him. If you’ll recall, Chloe was actually not quite as patient in the earlier seasons even going so far as to try and get answers about Clark out of Mrs. Kent in the episode, “Truth.”
Lois has earned the right to follow her own advice in this case and I’m sure she will. Despite this, her scenerio with Clark is not even remotely the same as it was with both Chloe and Lana. Lana learned Clark’s secret through manipulation. Chloe learned Clark’s secret by accident. Lois learned it because, to be graphic, she knew Clark so well as a man that she recognized his taste and touch and smell. It’s like comparing apples to oranges, imo.
@MJ To be fair though, Clark pretty much told her he was “The Blur” when he kissed her in the alley because he didn’t think he was going to be on Earth let alone Metropolis for very much longer, that was Derek’s point on the “Salvation” podcast and I concur with him on that.
@James I just hope unlike “Lois & Clark” if they do drag out this uncertainty between Clois it’s not for like four eps. and even if it is, they shouldn’t get back together until it makes sense and both Lois & Clark figure out how to be in a relationship without having it compromise Clark’s destiny. Opinions fellow Android, iPod, and Zune SHoEligans?
to add to the new topic pile would you guys like to see clark fight darkseid as the blur or superman?
@Drew Darkseid is a major villain in the DC Universe, and I see it only fitting that Clark fights him as Superman. This would not only give him more popularity, but also stay true, I guess, to the comic mythos. Darkseid has always been defeated by Clark in the comics, but NOT as some Blur or vigilante, he was always defeated by Superman, in the public eye for all to see. So, I think that it should be Superman that defeats Darkseid. Who agrees with me?
@Drew I’d like to say as “The Man of Steel” but what I think would be fitting is Clark’s last battle as The Blur would be against Darkseid and he realizes that this trench-coat and the black t-shirt with the sliver House of El symbol represents darkness represents things that are only a shade lighter than the things which represent Inter-gang or Lex Luthor or Darkseid or Brainaic or Zod the very things that he is trying to fight against. So after he has his first of many encounters with Darkseid at the end of the series (similar to Superman The Animated Series) he realizes The Blur needs to die and “The Man of Steel” needs to fly.
Here’s an idea I’d like to pose to my fellow iPod, Zune, and Android SHoEligans… According to Brian Austin Green Metallo inserted the control chip in himself in a deleted scene in “Upgrade” he even said that exact statement on the podcast for “Upgrade.” If we were to see Metallo in the tenth season could it be possible during the time Metallo leaves and gives up on people. He would meet Bruno Mannhiem or some other representatives from Inter-gang and he gets rebuilt similar to Superman The Animated Series and has the ability to shoot meteor rock rays from his eyes and other upgrades? Would my fellow want to see that or would be interested by that? And his upgrade could be done with the help of Granny or Darkseid?
///To be fair though, Clark pretty much told her he was “The Blur” when he kissed her in the alley because he didn’t think he was going to be on Earth let alone Metropolis for very much longer, that was Derek’s point on the “Salvation” podcast and I concur with him on that.///
@Woo, I agree. I think we are talking about two different things here. I agree that Clark grabbed Lois during “Salvation” because at that point he just wanted to kiss the women he loved one last time and wasn’t concerned about his identity at that point. That makes sense. My point was that I don’t think you can really say that Lois holding back the information from Clark is a repeat of what Chloe did in Season 4. The first reason being that Chloe got that idea originally from Lois. The second being that Lois learned the secret because she knew Clark so well as a man. She didn’t see him visibily demonstrate his powers by catching a car. She learned he was the Blur because she knew his kiss. It’s very different and I expect that Lois will handle it differently in her own unique way. That’s all I was saying. I agree with what you said above.
///they shouldn’t get back together until it makes sense and both Lois & Clark figure out how to be in a relationship without having it compromise Clark’s destiny.///
@Woo, I actually think you have it backwards. It’s not that a relationship with Lois will compromise Clark’s destiny. It’s more that Clark needs to learn how to balance serving the world without letting it destroy his relationship. He needs to learn that it’s not “selfish” (I’m using Clark’s words here) to want something and take something for himself. That he can, in fact, have both. They sound like the same thing….but they are not the same thing. The issue for Clark and Lois in the future isn’t going to be Clark fulfilling his destiny. We know that he will. The issue for them will be how does he keep her safe? How do they handle with seperation when Clark can’t be around? This is an issue that comes up again and again in the comics and was actually touched on very recently in Superman 700. Clark had to tell Lois (although it broke his heart to do it) that he couldn’t promise her that he wouldn’t have to go away again. He doesn’t want to leave her….but sometimes he has to. That’s a challenge for both of them as ideally both of then would prefer to just stay together. But they both recognize that Clark has a duty to the world. Personally, I think that’s more of the issue. Erica Durance has said that Lois is questioning her role in Clark’s lifenow. She doesn’t want to be a hinderence. She just wants to help him. I think what she’ll learn is that she CAN help him just by loving him and being a support system. It’s all about balance—something that Clark has never really had on this show but needs to achieve.
@MJ And again it’s something that I don’t know how they are going to get through by themselves without talking to someone about it. Unless, there are going to have Chloe over Windows Messenger ten mins. for like ep. 2 and 3. Lol.
@Woo, it’s already been spoiled that Lois and Chloe will have a discussion in the premiere. We don’t know what it’s about….but Erica Durance (or someone else I can’t remember) already let that slip. We also know that Lois will be spending time with Hawkman in the desert in Episode #2 and that he will help her with a few things.
Other than that, I expect that Clark and Lois will work out their issues themselves. They’re both adults and they don’t need anyone else to help them get through it. I imagine they’ll work it out the way mature couples over the age of 22 do in real-life—just talking it out.
@MJ You’re probably right, I just hope they don’t talk about it maturely at first. Reason being, Clois awkward relationship talk… Good and funny times. Lol. Lois spending time with Carter Hall makes sense as well because one sees him in the desert in the trailer at San Diego Comic Con.
I agrre with what MJ said that Lois will learn that she can help him by loving him,staying beside him and showing him support..something selfless and something he’s really never had before in any relationship..,but I don’t think her role in his life and destiny will be limited just to that,although it makes an important part of it.And as far as his destiny goes I really hope she helps him..among other people like Johnathan and Martha..get there!
@MJ and @James Now that I think about your guys’ comments especially with Chloe not around as much as she was in the past for Kal-El. Also, with her going on her own journey as Dr. Fate (presumably anyway) Kal-El really needs someone to be his “person” the one that no matter what believes in him. Like Martha, Jonathan, Alicia, and Lana (at least in seasons eight and seven when she learned the truth about him.) To keep him grounded so he doesn’t lose his way, exactly the way he did when Davis murdered Jimmy. Lois is that person for him now and that is one of the few about the fourth season of “Lois & Clark” I really thought was good material was the fact that Lois was always there for Clark. What do my fellow, iPod, Android, and Zune SHoEligans think?
@ Woo…I actually kind of like the idea of the finale being titled Finale for symmetry’s sake. For humor’s sake, they could title it “Finally”.
@since1938 No, the ep. “Finally” will be the ep. where Lois dies and Chloe will become Lois Lane… Kidding.
@Woo Don’t forget, Chloe magically gets her job back and Clark super kisses her. lol
@Michael J. Petty Not before Lex’s nephew Lenny takes over LuthorCorp.
Smallville News: If you have not seen SHoE’s Twitter: General Sam Lane and Lucy Lane returning to Smallville. My Lanta are they trying to make this into “Smallville: Greatest Hits” or what? Looking forward to seeing General Lane’s interaction with Clark. What do my fellow Zune, iPod, and Android SHoEligans think about this news?
@Woo, I can’t wait for that dynamic. As much as I want to see Lois get a little panicky with her family around, I can’t wait to see how the General will feel about Clark, the Blur, and all the superpowered stuff that’s gone on in the last few years. I like the dynamic of him thinking Clark’s a good guy, but that Lois is above dating a reporter. Hopefully something like that, along with some Blur hatred, will make for a wonderfully contentious dinner
As for Lucy, I have no idea what they’ll do with her. My guess is that she’ll be working with her dad. It’d make sense b/c she seemed jealous of the time Lois spent with their dad (how little it was). Plus, it would kind of fit in with her role in working alongside Sam during some of the recent comic arcs
@Stan I’d love it, if Sam Lane likes The Blur but really doesn’t like Clark. That’d be interesting to see. What do my fellow iPod, Zune, and Android SHoEligans think?
I think that if the writers go there, it will be with the traditional Sam Lane hates Capes, thinks Clark isn’t good enough for Lois, and I forsee the scene from Superman (volume 2) #168 with Sam going off about all the reasons “Superman/The Blur” is bad for the world…minus the Kents unfortunately (and a snooping Batman, lol).
@since1938 Well, yeah. I can totally see that happening. Reason being, Clark and Ollie both have seen in the series especially in the eighth and ninth seasons have gotten some flack from the public just being who they are and what they do. And how conservative “traditional” people like General Lane would view people like Green Arrow or The Blur. We saw this from Dan Turpin in “Bulletproof.”
The return of Sam Lane also raises another question though. Is he working with Lex Luthor? In recent comics, Lex and General Lane have been working together to take down Superman and all the New Kryptonians. So, could he be working with Lex to bring Clark down somehow, even without Lex telling him Clark’s secret. I mean, this might be a streach with Rosenbaum not here and all, but this is SMALLVILLE. Any thoughts anyone?
@Michael J. Petty I don’t see that happening just because the season is going to be super packed as it is. With Metallo possibly coming back possibly with Inter-gang which may have ties to Apoklips. Also, we heard a great possibility with Checkmate returning possibly and Waller specifically. I doubt we will Lucy and Sam Lane for nothing more than a one shot deal. And who is to say Lex knows Clark’s secret? Dr. Fate mentioned him yes, but who is to say the Lex that got blown up in “Requiem” was not a clone. From the San Diego Comic Con footage I feel that is exactly the thing that got destroyed from Toy Man’s bomb. My point is, I don’t see Sam Lane and Lex Luthor making a deal in Smallville. What do my fellow iPod, Android, and Zune SHoEligans think?
It would be interesting to see Sam Lane tied in with Checkmate, and he DID make a deal with Lex in S4 to protect Chloe. In the Comics, Sam dotes on Lois and can’t stand Clark. It would be interesting if Sam, as an over protective father, did something to protect Lois from Clark’s enemies. Also bonus if Ironside used his “Darkseid Voice” when having a “little chat” with Clark.
There’s always been this question lingering about who or what was in that truck that had been blown up in Requiem.The fact is that who ever it was,new about Clark’s secret and the other things from his life and secondly the person..Lex inside the truck was in a really bad shape to say the least.Someone,I think it was Steve in one of the podcasts atributed that to an imperfect clone or something like that.But since the original plan was for Lex to regenerate and be powered by that suit that later on Lana’d gotten a hold of and clones were just something he was playing with,maybe just a back up plan..,I actually think,I may be wrong off course,but I just want to say that it is possible and plausible that was in fact the real Lex that’d gotten killed all messed up from what happened in the Arctic and so with him died his knowledge of Clark’s secret that he was keeping just for himself and didn’t want to share with anybody or put on any record in order so that when the time comes,only he can use that to his advantage.Later on,when he reemerges,this time as a clone,he won’t have any memory of the secret because there’s not going to be anyone to tell it to him or anywhere to download it from to his mind..as well as he won’t have some of the other memories due to imperfections in making a clone process or something like that..just a theory!!
i think the perosn in the truck was regan if thats how u spell his name it could be him after tess beat him up and he put the facts together and pertended to be lex and the real lex cool be some where with no memory of everfinding out clarks secert or going to the fortress at all….. thats my theory
@Woo Lex has, at this point, got to know Clark’s secret. We SAW him at the Fortress in Arctic and he told Clark that he knew Clark was the Traveler. And if the Lex who died in Requiem was a clone, maybe he made clones of himself after the Fortress incident to ensure his (meaning the real Lex) life wouldn’t be taken because of knowing Clark’s secret. But, if the Lex at the Fortress was a clone, then where would the real Lex be. And remember, Lex though it was directally his destiny to kill Clark, so wouldn’t he (meaning the real Lex) be the one at the Fortress who knew Clark’s secret. Plus, Brainiac (playing Kara) basically told Lex who the Traveler was before he decided to even go to the arctic. So, my point is, Lex has got to know Clark’s secret for sure, and who knows, Clark could have John Jones take his memory of his secret away, or John might just do it on his own.
@James You bring up a good point. But, why would Lex (in Requiem) have all those burns if he was in the arctic and Clark (without powers remember) not have any. Maybe Steve is right, it could very well be an imperfect clone.
The burns that “Lex” from Requiem had didn’t necessarily have to be from the arctic. And why does everyone assume that Lex will “forget” Clark’s secret. I think it makes for greater drama for Lex to have his memories in tact and to taunt Clark with the fact that he knows. But this is Lex, and he’s not anything if not proprietary. Clark’s identity is the type of thing Lex, both on Smallville and in the comics, wouldn’t share with anyone if he knew it just because he sees Superman as HIS nemesis…proprietary.
@Michael J Petty..those burns might as well have been frost bites,..I’ve seen such an injury and I can tell you it looks pretty nasty and very similar to a burn.And Clark in that case could have lost his powers only after the event,especially because,as far as I can remember,later on some Russians fished him out of the see somwhere in thr north and he didn’t die out of hypothermia either.
I agree with Natasha..Lex IS that kind of a person,that’s why I think he didn’t tell anyone before and it would make for a greater drama in some ways if he knew about it even later,but than again he’s also the type of a person who would use that knowledge against Clark/Superman if not immediatelly,later on when he showes up again,then at least soon or rather sooner then later and he doesn’t..I mean in the Superman canon..isn’t it established that Lex doesn’t know Superman’s secret identity?
@Michael J. Petty and really to my fellow Android, Zune, and iPod SHoEligans. This is my feeling of why the Lex that got destroyed in “Requiem” wasn’t the real Lex Luthor.
The way that I believe everything went down goes like this: Lex pushes his own Dad out of a window. His shouting match with Clark happens in his library in “Descent” Lex realizes (and we know from other mediums other than Smallville Lex knows when “the stove is getting too hot and it is time to bail.”) Lex knows for a fact that Clark knows Lex pushed Lionel out that window. Lex then gets a doctor who worked on the 33.1 projects, he clones himself, he downloads and copies all his memories to that clone. Of course, not letting the clone know he is a clone that is in fact Lex Luthor. Lex murders the doctor and he go to some remote hide-away somewhere but before he leaves and before he murders the doctor. He implants a camera into the clone’s optic nerve just like he did to Mercy. So, he can see and hear everything that the clone is doing and seeing. The clone moves Mercy up to acting CEO of LuthorCorp just in case something happens to him. “The real” Lex witnesses everything, sees the throwdown in the Fortress, etc. The real Lex let’s everything play out while he is macking on some woman. Who knows? Maybe Dr. Helen Bryce. The clone survives somehow and thinks he is in fact Lex Luthor. And everything plays out in the eighth season the way it does as far as “the clone” goes.
Reason, I have a problem with the real Lex dying in “Requiem” is remember that Lex Luthor in all mediums is always one step ahead of everyone. Something that has always stuck in my head is Lex’s look he gives to the camera in “Descent” when he murders his “good self.” The look of “I embrace the darkness within me and let it take over.” although to me it is also a look of “I have a plan.”
@James When I originally came up with my theory, I also had the idea of Lex knowing Clark’s secret and holding that over him. Not letting Clark know that Lex knows everything about Clark’s Kryptonian Origins and not letting his greatest nemesis know he knows his secret.
Lastly, I have always thought that Lex would want to get some payback on Oliver and Mercy as well. For thinking that they took him down when that wasn’t the case at all. I have always thought that Lex (to go along with Derek’s theory in a way) murder Mercy with Green’s Arrows’ crossbow or one of his arrows and make it look like Green Arrow did it. Making Ollie leave Metropolis and go back to Star City (which is a good way to spin him off into his own series if that is what Kelly or Brian or whoever chooses to do that.)
Now, to paraphrase Mr. Russell this is just a theory Rosenbaum because of his schedule may never return to Smallville. But this is my theory and the one I think makes the most sense to me. What do my fellow Android, Zune, and iPod SHoEligans think?