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	<title>Comments on: Robin’s “Sacrifice” Review</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.smallvillepodcast.com/2010/05/06/robin%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9csacrifice%e2%80%9d-review/comment-page-1/#comment-112288</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 18:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone said we&#039;re all geeks underneath it all..some just hide it better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone said we&#8217;re all geeks underneath it all..some just hide it better!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 18:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MJ..It would have been murder one if she&#039;d left Tess to die without a doubt,because she would have undersood the consequence of her inaction,there would have been an intent on her part and that is premeditation..so I don&#039;t think she should be aplauded for not killing somebody!!
She,as you said,needs to apolgize and mean it! Itruly hope she gets her redemption cause I used to love her character till the end of season 8..it&#039;s amazing how much and how quickly that had changed!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MJ..It would have been murder one if she&#8217;d left Tess to die without a doubt,because she would have undersood the consequence of her inaction,there would have been an intent on her part and that is premeditation..so I don&#8217;t think she should be aplauded for not killing somebody!!<br />
She,as you said,needs to apolgize and mean it! Itruly hope she gets her redemption cause I used to love her character till the end of season 8..it&#8217;s amazing how much and how quickly that had changed!!</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 18:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heart geeks.  I accepted a long time ago that I was a geek underneath it all.  And it&#039;s super fun to unleash my inner geek with all of you. :)  We don&#039;t always have to agree but debate is fun!  So yay for inner geektitude! (Not sure if that&#039;s a word but it should be.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heart geeks.  I accepted a long time ago that I was a geek underneath it all.  And it&#8217;s super fun to unleash my inner geek with all of you. :)  We don&#8217;t always have to agree but debate is fun!  So yay for inner geektitude! (Not sure if that&#8217;s a word but it should be.)</p>
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		<title>By: Natasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 18:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Whoever said Smallville isn&#039;t intellectual needs to come on this board more often.  As someone with a degree in Philosophy, this season has been such a fascinating look into morality and culpability.  It&#039;s almost the whole Kantian ethics (Categorical Imperative) vs. Utilitarianism debate for the new millenium.  Great job guys.  My inner geek is thrilled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Whoever said Smallville isn&#8217;t intellectual needs to come on this board more often.  As someone with a degree in Philosophy, this season has been such a fascinating look into morality and culpability.  It&#8217;s almost the whole Kantian ethics (Categorical Imperative) vs. Utilitarianism debate for the new millenium.  Great job guys.  My inner geek is thrilled.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 18:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robin..I&#039;m sorry and please don&#039;t take it personally,but I have to go with MJ and Kathleen on this..both about Clark and Chloe.Clark reacted the way a hero does with Waller even she was basicaly his enemy,actually not even as a superhero but more like a moral human being,out of the goodnes of his pure heart and I don&#039;t think he could have fallowed Zod on foot anyway,that&#039;s the hole point of him being so hendicaped compared to Zod and other superpowered Kandorians cause he cannot fly.Don&#039;t forget that there is a big difference between using roads together with obstacels you have to use more energy and time to go arround or over and flying at superspeed.Also my point was that all of them have gone through dark times and have battled their inner demons..that&#039;s not just Chloes&#039; curse or &quot;privilege&quot;and I&#039;m not talking just about guilt over Jimmys&#039; death that everyone felt..Clarks father died basicaly because of Clarks actions,Oliver suffered many traumas beginning with early on in his chilhood and so on.The main difference between them and Chloe as I see it is that they either withdrawed from other people as Clark had or in other ways went on with selfdestructive behaviour..hurting and punishing only themselves,also blaiming just themselves not involving others in their path to recovery.
Chloe on the other hand began with more than that..I&#039;m not going to repeat what others have already listed as her completely dispicable serial behaviour,but she definitely crossed the line, violated other peoples rights..I mean how would you react if you found out your best friend had bugged youre entire house,wiretapped your phone,listened to your most private conversations..and Clark is constantly apologizing to her..that scene which MJ mentioned,when she had given him the cold shoulder after his attempt to comfort her was just..uh..Iwas going;please don&#039;t apologize to her again,cause I thought he just might!
So,her dealing with her own demons violated and ultimately even hurt other people..if she hadn&#039;t chiped the Kandorians in the first place,Checkmate wouldn&#039;t have been able to find them and put them in danger!
Then there is her blaiming others instead of accepting her own responsibility which no one else in their circle have done..she openly blamed Clark for Jimmys&#039; death and felt he turned his back on her only when he&#039;d refused to change the past in order to bring back Jimmy!I totaly understood Clarks decision not to do it no matter how hard it was for him too!
Furthermore and finaly she showed incredible level of hypocrisy by preaching,mostly to Clark about teamwork,while at the same time she was doing so much stuff on her own,behind his back and many of the stuff behind everyones back..even Olivers&#039;..and I agree with most of my fellow posters that she is yet to show any real remorse for anything she&#039;s done so far!
As for her hesitation to revive Tess again I don&#039;t agree with your parallel with Clark when you say;He might not have saved Zod if it wasn&#039;t for his promise ti Jor-El..the key word here being MIGHT..that&#039;s speculation..Chloe hesitating is a fact!Plus I believe he would have saved him anyway,that&#039;s his nature as the show canon continualy tells us.
And another argument you state for justifying,or explaining Chloe thinking twice about reviving Tess I think is completely wrong,is Tess almost shootin her in &#039;Persuasion&#039;.If that is another reason she hesitated..well that is pure vengeance and it doesn&#039;t portray a very nice picture of our Chloe now,does it?
Again..nothing personal and I really hope you don&#039;t get offended by my observations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robin..I&#8217;m sorry and please don&#8217;t take it personally,but I have to go with MJ and Kathleen on this..both about Clark and Chloe.Clark reacted the way a hero does with Waller even she was basicaly his enemy,actually not even as a superhero but more like a moral human being,out of the goodnes of his pure heart and I don&#8217;t think he could have fallowed Zod on foot anyway,that&#8217;s the hole point of him being so hendicaped compared to Zod and other superpowered Kandorians cause he cannot fly.Don&#8217;t forget that there is a big difference between using roads together with obstacels you have to use more energy and time to go arround or over and flying at superspeed.Also my point was that all of them have gone through dark times and have battled their inner demons..that&#8217;s not just Chloes&#8217; curse or &#8220;privilege&#8221;and I&#8217;m not talking just about guilt over Jimmys&#8217; death that everyone felt..Clarks father died basicaly because of Clarks actions,Oliver suffered many traumas beginning with early on in his chilhood and so on.The main difference between them and Chloe as I see it is that they either withdrawed from other people as Clark had or in other ways went on with selfdestructive behaviour..hurting and punishing only themselves,also blaiming just themselves not involving others in their path to recovery.<br />
Chloe on the other hand began with more than that..I&#8217;m not going to repeat what others have already listed as her completely dispicable serial behaviour,but she definitely crossed the line, violated other peoples rights..I mean how would you react if you found out your best friend had bugged youre entire house,wiretapped your phone,listened to your most private conversations..and Clark is constantly apologizing to her..that scene which MJ mentioned,when she had given him the cold shoulder after his attempt to comfort her was just..uh..Iwas going;please don&#8217;t apologize to her again,cause I thought he just might!<br />
So,her dealing with her own demons violated and ultimately even hurt other people..if she hadn&#8217;t chiped the Kandorians in the first place,Checkmate wouldn&#8217;t have been able to find them and put them in danger!<br />
Then there is her blaiming others instead of accepting her own responsibility which no one else in their circle have done..she openly blamed Clark for Jimmys&#8217; death and felt he turned his back on her only when he&#8217;d refused to change the past in order to bring back Jimmy!I totaly understood Clarks decision not to do it no matter how hard it was for him too!<br />
Furthermore and finaly she showed incredible level of hypocrisy by preaching,mostly to Clark about teamwork,while at the same time she was doing so much stuff on her own,behind his back and many of the stuff behind everyones back..even Olivers&#8217;..and I agree with most of my fellow posters that she is yet to show any real remorse for anything she&#8217;s done so far!<br />
As for her hesitation to revive Tess again I don&#8217;t agree with your parallel with Clark when you say;He might not have saved Zod if it wasn&#8217;t for his promise ti Jor-El..the key word here being MIGHT..that&#8217;s speculation..Chloe hesitating is a fact!Plus I believe he would have saved him anyway,that&#8217;s his nature as the show canon continualy tells us.<br />
And another argument you state for justifying,or explaining Chloe thinking twice about reviving Tess I think is completely wrong,is Tess almost shootin her in &#8216;Persuasion&#8217;.If that is another reason she hesitated..well that is pure vengeance and it doesn&#8217;t portray a very nice picture of our Chloe now,does it?<br />
Again..nothing personal and I really hope you don&#8217;t get offended by my observations!</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 17:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should also add that I totally understand that the mission was what was important to Chloe.  I understand all of that and I understand what the writers were trying to do. I commend Allison on a great job because clearly she did a great job with the material. 

It still doesn&#039;t change my opinion that she needs to say she&#039;s sorry for her wrongs.   All it would take at this point for me to embrace Chloe again would be something as simple as, &quot;Clark, I&#039;m sorry for lying to you last year with Davis.  I&#039;m sorry for spying on you and invading your privacy and I&#039;m genuninely sorry for going behind your back with the weapons.  I thought I was doing the right thing and trying to make the best decision to save us all....but it was wrong to keep you in the dark and disrespect you like that.&quot;

That&#039;s pretty much all it would take for me to love Chloe again. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should also add that I totally understand that the mission was what was important to Chloe.  I understand all of that and I understand what the writers were trying to do. I commend Allison on a great job because clearly she did a great job with the material. </p>
<p>It still doesn&#8217;t change my opinion that she needs to say she&#8217;s sorry for her wrongs.   All it would take at this point for me to embrace Chloe again would be something as simple as, &#8220;Clark, I&#8217;m sorry for lying to you last year with Davis.  I&#8217;m sorry for spying on you and invading your privacy and I&#8217;m genuninely sorry for going behind your back with the weapons.  I thought I was doing the right thing and trying to make the best decision to save us all&#8230;.but it was wrong to keep you in the dark and disrespect you like that.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty much all it would take for me to love Chloe again. :)</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 17:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree that it&#039;s been an excellent season.  I think that&#039;s something that maybe I should have made clear.

Just because I&#039;ve problems with Chloe&#039;s actions this year doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t think it&#039;s all fascinating and interesting and great drama.  I do.  

I don&#039;t think that you have to &quot;love&quot; a character in order to find them interesting.   I&#039;ve had major problems with Chloe&#039;s actions all year.  And no, Gracemis, she has NEVER apologized at all this year.  Not once.  Clark has actually said the words &quot;I&#039;m sorry&quot; 3 times now.  He has also flat out said on his knees that he was WRONG several times. Chloe as yet to utter those words.  Let&#039;s be clear on that.  Clark and Chloe are not on the same level right now in terms of asking forgiveness and saying they are sorry.  Clark has done it 3 times in a sincere and genuine way.  I&#039;m not sure how you would watch &quot;Checkmate&quot; or &quot;Upgrade&quot; (or even Metallo) and accuse his apologies of being &quot;thin&quot; and not being sincere.  He was on his knees for God&#039;s sake.  

But even with all of that, I still think it&#039;s been interesting and one of the best seasons of Smallville that I can remember.  Just because I don&#039;t like something doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t appreciate the higher signifigance of it in the overall canon.

To me, this season has proven once and for all what an incredibly gracious, humble and selfless hero Clark is.  No one is on his level.  The only person is comes close at this point, in my opinion, is Lois.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that it&#8217;s been an excellent season.  I think that&#8217;s something that maybe I should have made clear.</p>
<p>Just because I&#8217;ve problems with Chloe&#8217;s actions this year doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s all fascinating and interesting and great drama.  I do.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that you have to &#8220;love&#8221; a character in order to find them interesting.   I&#8217;ve had major problems with Chloe&#8217;s actions all year.  And no, Gracemis, she has NEVER apologized at all this year.  Not once.  Clark has actually said the words &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry&#8221; 3 times now.  He has also flat out said on his knees that he was WRONG several times. Chloe as yet to utter those words.  Let&#8217;s be clear on that.  Clark and Chloe are not on the same level right now in terms of asking forgiveness and saying they are sorry.  Clark has done it 3 times in a sincere and genuine way.  I&#8217;m not sure how you would watch &#8220;Checkmate&#8221; or &#8220;Upgrade&#8221; (or even Metallo) and accuse his apologies of being &#8220;thin&#8221; and not being sincere.  He was on his knees for God&#8217;s sake.  </p>
<p>But even with all of that, I still think it&#8217;s been interesting and one of the best seasons of Smallville that I can remember.  Just because I don&#8217;t like something doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t appreciate the higher signifigance of it in the overall canon.</p>
<p>To me, this season has proven once and for all what an incredibly gracious, humble and selfless hero Clark is.  No one is on his level.  The only person is comes close at this point, in my opinion, is Lois.</p>
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		<title>By: gracemis</title>
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		<dc:creator>gracemis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 17:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chloe took a step off that dark path and back to the path of righteousness.  Ultimately Clark/Superman&#039;s path.

Chloe has traded apologized to Clark but they have both felt thin.  Like neither was really sure that hey had done something wrong.  And I really have missed the Chloe/Clark friendship of seasons past.
But that has kept the tension high.  

While nothing is perfect and a lot has occurred in &quot;offscreenville&quot;  I have really enjoyed the moral ambiguity of Season 9 and Chloe and Oliver&#039;s path through the dark places where they had to decide...Do you want to save the world at any cost?  Can you live in that kind of world?  (Oliver nearly could not.)

The complexity and depth of the storylines in season 9 have been an order of magnitude more interesting than in prior years.  

Another example is Lois&#039;s/ED character development in Charade.  I think was said in another forum and it really resonated with me....when Clark voiced her thoughts...you feel selfish for worrying about your own happiness when you could be part of something bigger...more important...it elevated Lois from thrill seeking reporter to HERO.

I have plenty of other minor grips about plotholes and lack of Clark character development. 

But... 

Overall this has been an excellent season.  The writers, producers, directors, cast have really done a great job for any TV series.  For a 9th season...they have done an outstanding job in bring a fresh compelling complexity to the characters and the story of a young man on his loooong journey to being a superhero and all the people that are part of a bigger journey to the Justice League or to the Daily Planet or other ways to save the world.

Thanks Robin for remembering Jimmy *wink* Henry Olsen too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chloe took a step off that dark path and back to the path of righteousness.  Ultimately Clark/Superman&#8217;s path.</p>
<p>Chloe has traded apologized to Clark but they have both felt thin.  Like neither was really sure that hey had done something wrong.  And I really have missed the Chloe/Clark friendship of seasons past.<br />
But that has kept the tension high.  </p>
<p>While nothing is perfect and a lot has occurred in &#8220;offscreenville&#8221;  I have really enjoyed the moral ambiguity of Season 9 and Chloe and Oliver&#8217;s path through the dark places where they had to decide&#8230;Do you want to save the world at any cost?  Can you live in that kind of world?  (Oliver nearly could not.)</p>
<p>The complexity and depth of the storylines in season 9 have been an order of magnitude more interesting than in prior years.  </p>
<p>Another example is Lois&#8217;s/ED character development in Charade.  I think was said in another forum and it really resonated with me&#8230;.when Clark voiced her thoughts&#8230;you feel selfish for worrying about your own happiness when you could be part of something bigger&#8230;more important&#8230;it elevated Lois from thrill seeking reporter to HERO.</p>
<p>I have plenty of other minor grips about plotholes and lack of Clark character development. </p>
<p>But&#8230; </p>
<p>Overall this has been an excellent season.  The writers, producers, directors, cast have really done a great job for any TV series.  For a 9th season&#8230;they have done an outstanding job in bring a fresh compelling complexity to the characters and the story of a young man on his loooong journey to being a superhero and all the people that are part of a bigger journey to the Justice League or to the Daily Planet or other ways to save the world.</p>
<p>Thanks Robin for remembering Jimmy *wink* Henry Olsen too.</p>
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		<title>By: gracemis</title>
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		<dc:creator>gracemis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 16:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your thoughtful review.  It is very interesting to see what people pick up on.   A couple of my thoughts.

I agree that Clark could have been more vigilante with protecting Faora.  I also agree that Zod -and only Zod- is responsible for his own murderous actions.  I don&#039;t think you meant to imply otherwise.

Generally I absolutely believe that &quot;evil wins when good people stand by and do nothing&quot;  is very true.  However, Clark was doing something, but in the split second it just wasn&#039;t enough.  I wish he might have made a different decision, but Clark made the best decision he could in the moment.  So I am okay with Clark.  It&#039;s just all incredibly sad for Faora and the Kandorians who were trying to live a peaceful life.

With regard to Chloe,  her sacrifice of Watchtower was much more than her computers.  It was clearly a huge part of her identity and her desire to honor Jimmy&#039;s memory.  I complete read her hesitation to destroy Watchtower differently.  I think Allison and the writers have clearly said in different ways that &quot;the mission&quot; was more important than anything to Chloe.  Chloe felt her work as Watchtower was more important than her own life.

Likewise, throughout the season Chloe also felt that her morals (or Clark&#039;s morals or societies morals) were not as important as the &quot;mission.&quot;  Tess is actually a mass murderer in her own right- anyone remember the little &quot;terminate&quot; button that she used to kill her own team in &quot;injustice&quot;?

So destroying Watchtower was a step on the &quot;my own life has value&quot; path.  

Bring Tess back (even with hesitation) was a step on &quot;my morals have value&quot; path.

The &quot;ends justify the means&quot; path has been an increasingly dark one for Chloe and she could easily have ended up like Tess.  Trying to save the world in all the wrong ways.  

Chloe took a step off that path and back to the path of rightou</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your thoughtful review.  It is very interesting to see what people pick up on.   A couple of my thoughts.</p>
<p>I agree that Clark could have been more vigilante with protecting Faora.  I also agree that Zod -and only Zod- is responsible for his own murderous actions.  I don&#8217;t think you meant to imply otherwise.</p>
<p>Generally I absolutely believe that &#8220;evil wins when good people stand by and do nothing&#8221;  is very true.  However, Clark was doing something, but in the split second it just wasn&#8217;t enough.  I wish he might have made a different decision, but Clark made the best decision he could in the moment.  So I am okay with Clark.  It&#8217;s just all incredibly sad for Faora and the Kandorians who were trying to live a peaceful life.</p>
<p>With regard to Chloe,  her sacrifice of Watchtower was much more than her computers.  It was clearly a huge part of her identity and her desire to honor Jimmy&#8217;s memory.  I complete read her hesitation to destroy Watchtower differently.  I think Allison and the writers have clearly said in different ways that &#8220;the mission&#8221; was more important than anything to Chloe.  Chloe felt her work as Watchtower was more important than her own life.</p>
<p>Likewise, throughout the season Chloe also felt that her morals (or Clark&#8217;s morals or societies morals) were not as important as the &#8220;mission.&#8221;  Tess is actually a mass murderer in her own right- anyone remember the little &#8220;terminate&#8221; button that she used to kill her own team in &#8220;injustice&#8221;?</p>
<p>So destroying Watchtower was a step on the &#8220;my own life has value&#8221; path.  </p>
<p>Bring Tess back (even with hesitation) was a step on &#8220;my morals have value&#8221; path.</p>
<p>The &#8220;ends justify the means&#8221; path has been an increasingly dark one for Chloe and she could easily have ended up like Tess.  Trying to save the world in all the wrong ways.  </p>
<p>Chloe took a step off that path and back to the path of rightou</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 16:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh that&#039;s ok. It&#039;s just my opinion. Good debate!</description>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 15:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And I&#039;m thinking that allowing Tess to live was a turning point for her...&quot;

See, I have issues even with that wording.  &quot;Allowing Tess to live.&quot;  That&#039;s almost like saying that Chloe made some kind of powerful sacrifice for saving Tess&#039; life when she was the one who killed her to begin with.  We don&#039;t &quot;allow&quot; people to live in this world.  That&#039;s not in our power.  We are not God.  As human beings, we are capable of TAKING life but we don&#039;t have some kind of higher power that gives us the CHOICE as to whether we should allow someone to live.  And in my opinion, a HERO (which is what this show claims that Chloe is) would never hesitate. Chloe could have gone to jail if she left Tess like that.  It&#039;s arguably first degree murder because it was pre-meditated.   In many states, it&#039;s against the law to stop giving someone life saving treatment once you have started.   So in other words, if you see someone lying on the ground injured or dying and you start to adminster CPR or help them....you can&#039;t just walk away.  You have assumed a duty to help that person.  If you leave them there to die...you could be found liable in some way for their death.  

The fact that she even hesitated to leave Tess there was really cold to me.   Yes, Tess has done some pretty screwed up things over the years.  But taking a life is taking a life.   

Anyway, I really do appreciate your perspective and the time you put into the review and your comments.    But I just can&#039;t budge on this one.  Sorry. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And I&#8217;m thinking that allowing Tess to live was a turning point for her&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>See, I have issues even with that wording.  &#8220;Allowing Tess to live.&#8221;  That&#8217;s almost like saying that Chloe made some kind of powerful sacrifice for saving Tess&#8217; life when she was the one who killed her to begin with.  We don&#8217;t &#8220;allow&#8221; people to live in this world.  That&#8217;s not in our power.  We are not God.  As human beings, we are capable of TAKING life but we don&#8217;t have some kind of higher power that gives us the CHOICE as to whether we should allow someone to live.  And in my opinion, a HERO (which is what this show claims that Chloe is) would never hesitate. Chloe could have gone to jail if she left Tess like that.  It&#8217;s arguably first degree murder because it was pre-meditated.   In many states, it&#8217;s against the law to stop giving someone life saving treatment once you have started.   So in other words, if you see someone lying on the ground injured or dying and you start to adminster CPR or help them&#8230;.you can&#8217;t just walk away.  You have assumed a duty to help that person.  If you leave them there to die&#8230;you could be found liable in some way for their death.  </p>
<p>The fact that she even hesitated to leave Tess there was really cold to me.   Yes, Tess has done some pretty screwed up things over the years.  But taking a life is taking a life.   </p>
<p>Anyway, I really do appreciate your perspective and the time you put into the review and your comments.    But I just can&#8217;t budge on this one.  Sorry. :)</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 15:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Clark....yes, that&#039;s an interesting idea that you have and I appreciate all the thought that you put into it.

Yes, it would have been awesome if that had happened and FAora had been saved.  But it&#039;s still not Clark&#039;s fault.  All the guilt for what happened to Faora still remains with Zod and Zod alone.  What you have created is an alternate way that Clark might have saved her.  But the fact that it didn&#039;t go down that way doesn&#039;t mean that Clark somehow screwed up or is in any way responsible for what happened.

That&#039;s like saying that a police officer who walks down one street as opposed to another has dropped the ball if a gang member shoots a child on the street that he could have walked down.  The person pulling the trigger is the person responsible for the crime.  No one else.  And Clark, as magnificent as he is and as powerful as he is, is not flawless and he is not all knowing or all powerful.  He can&#039;t save everyone as much as he may try.  And if someone is murdered and he doesn&#039;t get there in time to save them...it&#039;s not his fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Clark&#8230;.yes, that&#8217;s an interesting idea that you have and I appreciate all the thought that you put into it.</p>
<p>Yes, it would have been awesome if that had happened and FAora had been saved.  But it&#8217;s still not Clark&#8217;s fault.  All the guilt for what happened to Faora still remains with Zod and Zod alone.  What you have created is an alternate way that Clark might have saved her.  But the fact that it didn&#8217;t go down that way doesn&#8217;t mean that Clark somehow screwed up or is in any way responsible for what happened.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s like saying that a police officer who walks down one street as opposed to another has dropped the ball if a gang member shoots a child on the street that he could have walked down.  The person pulling the trigger is the person responsible for the crime.  No one else.  And Clark, as magnificent as he is and as powerful as he is, is not flawless and he is not all knowing or all powerful.  He can&#8217;t save everyone as much as he may try.  And if someone is murdered and he doesn&#8217;t get there in time to save them&#8230;it&#8217;s not his fault.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 15:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, I totally understand everything you are saying about Chloe.  Your comments have echoed many of the things that we have talked about all year on this board.  I am not unfeeling towards Chloe.  I&#039;ve been saying all year that I feel as though she&#039;s been through a lot.  But then again...EVERYONE on this show has been put through the wringer.  I&#039;m not asking for much from her: just an apology.  

Clark has apologized 3 times this year for his mistakes last season.  4 times if you count his apology to Oliver in &quot;Echo.&quot;   He&#039;s offered his sincerest apology to Chloe for leaving her in &quot;Doomsday&quot;---a situation that Chloe herself was partly responsible for.   Everyone always talks about what Chloe was going through at the end of that episode.  But God...what about what Clark had been through?  Davis is dead.  Jimmy is dead.  Lois is missing and he believes that she&#039;s dead.  Oliver and the rest of the JLA had turned his back on him and Chloe had lied to him repeatedly.  Honestly...I don&#039;t blame Clark for walking away and feeling like he just needed to seperate himself entirely from these people.  But he came back.  And he got down on his knees and said he was sorry.  That takes true heroism and strength.  So as far as I&#039;m concerned...Clark is absolved from leaving Chloe in &quot;Doomsday.&quot;  He has asked for forgiveness in the most genuine of ways and it would be wrong to continue to hold that over his head when he has done nothing but try to make up for what he did.  And never once has he asked for an apology in return.

The bottom line is that life is hard.  Shit happens.  I feel for what Chloe has been through.  I really really do.   If she broke down and cried about it I would be right there with her.  But at the end of the day, we are all responsible for the choices that we make.  If we break the law...we should reap the consequences.   Do you know how many people I&#039;ve had in front of me in court who have had terrible childhoods or awful things happen to them?  Does that mean that we should excuse their crimes because we feel sorry for them and they had such a tough life?  No.  We all have free will and we are responsible for the choices that we make.

Adults don&#039;t blame other people for their shortcomings.  That&#039;s what children do.  Adults (and in my book HEROES) accept that life is difficult and they find the courage to accept responsibility for their mistakes, apologize when they wrong someone and grant forgiveness.  

I&#039;ve said all season that all I&#039;m looking for from Chloe is a genuine apology for her crimes.  That&#039;s it.   I really don&#039;t think I&#039;m asking for too much.  And if she were to do it I would be the first person to argue that everyone should forgive her and welcome her back with open arms.  But I&#039;m sorry...until that happens my sympathy for Chloe is limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, I totally understand everything you are saying about Chloe.  Your comments have echoed many of the things that we have talked about all year on this board.  I am not unfeeling towards Chloe.  I&#8217;ve been saying all year that I feel as though she&#8217;s been through a lot.  But then again&#8230;EVERYONE on this show has been put through the wringer.  I&#8217;m not asking for much from her: just an apology.  </p>
<p>Clark has apologized 3 times this year for his mistakes last season.  4 times if you count his apology to Oliver in &#8220;Echo.&#8221;   He&#8217;s offered his sincerest apology to Chloe for leaving her in &#8220;Doomsday&#8221;&#8212;a situation that Chloe herself was partly responsible for.   Everyone always talks about what Chloe was going through at the end of that episode.  But God&#8230;what about what Clark had been through?  Davis is dead.  Jimmy is dead.  Lois is missing and he believes that she&#8217;s dead.  Oliver and the rest of the JLA had turned his back on him and Chloe had lied to him repeatedly.  Honestly&#8230;I don&#8217;t blame Clark for walking away and feeling like he just needed to seperate himself entirely from these people.  But he came back.  And he got down on his knees and said he was sorry.  That takes true heroism and strength.  So as far as I&#8217;m concerned&#8230;Clark is absolved from leaving Chloe in &#8220;Doomsday.&#8221;  He has asked for forgiveness in the most genuine of ways and it would be wrong to continue to hold that over his head when he has done nothing but try to make up for what he did.  And never once has he asked for an apology in return.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that life is hard.  Shit happens.  I feel for what Chloe has been through.  I really really do.   If she broke down and cried about it I would be right there with her.  But at the end of the day, we are all responsible for the choices that we make.  If we break the law&#8230;we should reap the consequences.   Do you know how many people I&#8217;ve had in front of me in court who have had terrible childhoods or awful things happen to them?  Does that mean that we should excuse their crimes because we feel sorry for them and they had such a tough life?  No.  We all have free will and we are responsible for the choices that we make.</p>
<p>Adults don&#8217;t blame other people for their shortcomings.  That&#8217;s what children do.  Adults (and in my book HEROES) accept that life is difficult and they find the courage to accept responsibility for their mistakes, apologize when they wrong someone and grant forgiveness.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said all season that all I&#8217;m looking for from Chloe is a genuine apology for her crimes.  That&#8217;s it.   I really don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m asking for too much.  And if she were to do it I would be the first person to argue that everyone should forgive her and welcome her back with open arms.  But I&#8217;m sorry&#8230;until that happens my sympathy for Chloe is limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 15:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all for your replies. Reading over your responses, I kicked myself because I forgot to mention how she hesitated! That was so important and I thank you all for forgiving this mistake.

Man, Chloe has gone a bit dark side this year, but you guys have really turned on her! I still believe in her. I still go back to what happened with Jimmy. Her actions led to the death of the man she loved. Jimmy was killed right in front of her, because she let her guard down with Davis. And in her darkest hour, Clark turned his back on her, obviously because he was dealing with his own self-flagellation over Jimmy&#039;s death. 

Dealing with that grief, she threw herself headlong into building Watchtower. While she built a literal and figurative wall around her, she also took it upon herself to be the all-seeing eye of Metropolis by setting cameras around the city. No one was going to be hurt again under her watch. And she wasn&#039;t going to allow any superbeings to sway her into letting her defenses down, like Clark and especially Davis did. It&#039;s that kind of emotional damage that Chloe has had to work through this season. I don&#039;t believe we&#039;re ever going to see the old Chloe again. That&#039;s just what happens when

And I think allowing Tess to live was a turning point for her really. The new Chloe maybe might have let her die. You forget the woman she becomes in the future in Pandora. She even kills Tess in the future. Bringing Tess back might just have stopped that from happening. Besides, didn&#039;t Tess almost shoot Chloe in Persuasion? That might be another reason, besides protecting their various secrets, that Chloe might have thought twice about reviving her. Clark isn&#039;t infallible in this hesitation either. He might not have saved Zod with his own blood if it wasn&#039;t for his promise to Jor-El.

Some of you called me out for saying Clark dropped the ball with Faora. Here&#039;s something I&#039;d like to call What I Would Do If I Was Clark:

Zod and me are having the staredown. I wonder if Waller is ok, because of my compassion for all human life. Still watching the sinister Zod, I use my superhearing to listen for a heartbeat. I hear one, but it&#039;s faint. Waller needs medical attention. But Zod is about to kidnap Faora, a pregnant woman who Zod might kill because she betrayed him. Zod takes off, I superspeed after him, watching the skies. While I&#039;m doing this, I take out my cell phone and call an ambulance for Waller. I follow them back to the warehouse. Using superhearing and xray vision, I wait for the appropriate moment to superspeed in there and grab Faora, totally catching Zod, who is mid-monologue, by surprise. Then I run her out of there. If Zod chases me, I get her to safety and defend her with my life. She is family, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all for your replies. Reading over your responses, I kicked myself because I forgot to mention how she hesitated! That was so important and I thank you all for forgiving this mistake.</p>
<p>Man, Chloe has gone a bit dark side this year, but you guys have really turned on her! I still believe in her. I still go back to what happened with Jimmy. Her actions led to the death of the man she loved. Jimmy was killed right in front of her, because she let her guard down with Davis. And in her darkest hour, Clark turned his back on her, obviously because he was dealing with his own self-flagellation over Jimmy&#8217;s death. </p>
<p>Dealing with that grief, she threw herself headlong into building Watchtower. While she built a literal and figurative wall around her, she also took it upon herself to be the all-seeing eye of Metropolis by setting cameras around the city. No one was going to be hurt again under her watch. And she wasn&#8217;t going to allow any superbeings to sway her into letting her defenses down, like Clark and especially Davis did. It&#8217;s that kind of emotional damage that Chloe has had to work through this season. I don&#8217;t believe we&#8217;re ever going to see the old Chloe again. That&#8217;s just what happens when</p>
<p>And I think allowing Tess to live was a turning point for her really. The new Chloe maybe might have let her die. You forget the woman she becomes in the future in Pandora. She even kills Tess in the future. Bringing Tess back might just have stopped that from happening. Besides, didn&#8217;t Tess almost shoot Chloe in Persuasion? That might be another reason, besides protecting their various secrets, that Chloe might have thought twice about reviving her. Clark isn&#8217;t infallible in this hesitation either. He might not have saved Zod with his own blood if it wasn&#8217;t for his promise to Jor-El.</p>
<p>Some of you called me out for saying Clark dropped the ball with Faora. Here&#8217;s something I&#8217;d like to call What I Would Do If I Was Clark:</p>
<p>Zod and me are having the staredown. I wonder if Waller is ok, because of my compassion for all human life. Still watching the sinister Zod, I use my superhearing to listen for a heartbeat. I hear one, but it&#8217;s faint. Waller needs medical attention. But Zod is about to kidnap Faora, a pregnant woman who Zod might kill because she betrayed him. Zod takes off, I superspeed after him, watching the skies. While I&#8217;m doing this, I take out my cell phone and call an ambulance for Waller. I follow them back to the warehouse. Using superhearing and xray vision, I wait for the appropriate moment to superspeed in there and grab Faora, totally catching Zod, who is mid-monologue, by surprise. Then I run her out of there. If Zod chases me, I get her to safety and defend her with my life. She is family, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 12:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, thank you for yur review.  It&#039;s great to have another column to look forward to on this site.

I have to agree with some of the things my fellow posters have said above.  

There&#039;s a few things that I think are important to remember here:

The first is something that I&#039;ve said several times over the course of this year but I&#039;m going to repeat again because I think it&#039;s important.

Villians are responsible for the choices that they make.  If they commit a crime...that is on THEM.  No one else.   As I&#039;ve shared before on here, I&#039;m an attorney.  I&#039;ve worked in a DA&#039;s office in a very big city and I&#039;ve worked on murder trials before.   The bottom line is that if a person commits murder....they and they ALONE are responsible for that crime unless of course it&#039;s some kind of conspiracy and there are multiple people involved in the criminal activity.   I&#039;ve grown very tired of this idea out there in fandom that Clark is somehow at fault or responsible for the choices that the villians make on this show.  He&#039;s not.  Clark is a good, generous and pure person of great moral character.   He is not in control of other people&#039;s actions nor is he some kind of all knowing god that can anticipate every peron&#039;s actions or reactions prior to them happening. He did exactly what he should have done in this episode by checking on Amanda and making sure that she was alright.  What happened to Faora was extremely tragic but it is in no way Clark&#039;s fault.   The only person who &quot;dropped the ball&quot; in Faora&#039;s murder was Zod by giving in to his brutality and surrendering his last ounce of goodness once and for all.

Second, I think it&#039;s important to distinguish between what is objective vs. what is subjective about Chloe.  (I think this is what Natasha was getting at.)  

I&#039;ve said before that I think Allison Mack is lovely and talented.  I have nothing but kind things to say about Allison so let&#039;s just put that aside for a moment.  This has nothing to do with Allison.

There are certain things on this show that are subjective and how someone FEELS about Chloe is one of those things.   For example, if you happen to be a fan that finds Allison Mack so be absolutely beautiful and lovely then obviously those are subjective feelings.  Opinions.  And they do influence the way that we view things.

That being said, there are things on this show that are OBJECTIVE.  They are factual.  Our feelings don&#039;t affect them either way because they happened whether we liked them or not.  Here are some of the facts about Chloe this year:  She embezzeled money from Oliver, she spied on Clark, she eavesdropped on his conversations, she openly blamed him for Jimmy&#039;s death, she stored weapons behind Clark&#039;s back and lied to him and she has never apologized for any of her behavior.  Now...these are facts from the show this year.  That is SHOW CANON.   How we FEEL about these things is going to be subjective depending on who you ask but the actions themselves are not up for debate.  They happened.

Why do I bring this up?  Because the last thing we ever want to do on here is bash a character senselessly.  (And I don&#039;t think anyone has done this....I&#039;m just bringing this up for discussion.)  Instead, the best thing to do is to use actual facts from the show to discuss what we don&#039;t agree with or what we don&#039;t like.   This is my biggest pet peeve about some of the more extreme fans who bash Lois and why I think they have about as much credibility as a piece of lint.  The majority of their issues with Lois are either not based on anything factual in the show canon or are based on a DISTORTED show canon and it not at all correct based on what we have seen on the screen.  Their reasons for senselessly bashing Lois aren&#039;t credible because they are entirely SUBJECTIVe.   

At this point, it&#039;s just become extremely difficult for me, as a fan, to reconcile Chloe on the show anymore.   All I really have wanted all year from her is a genuine apology.  That&#039;s pretty much it.  I do&#039;nt need to see her punished or raked over the coals or hurt.  I just want to see her say she&#039;s sorry and mean it.  

I think there were a lot of fans who were frustrated with this episode because Brian Peterson promised us that this would be the episode where we might see Chloe understand the consequences of her actions...and for the majority of us....that meant a genuine apology.  I loved the episode.  I really did.  I thought it was brilliant in so many ways.  But I didn&#039;t consider Chloe&#039;s sacrifice of Watchtower to be powerful at all.  She didn&#039;t surrender the computers because she realized she had been &quot;wrong&quot;...she did it to save her own life.  And at the end of the episode, Clark went to comfort her with a cup of coffee and she stormed past him and gave him the cold shoulder again.  How is that growth?  I don&#039;t get it.  I just don&#039;t.  How am I supposed to root for this character when she is so intensely cold and nasty to our hero?  I just can&#039;t do it.

Can you imagine the shitstorm that would have erupted if it had been LOIS who had hesitated in leaving Tess for dead?  Honestly....think about that.  Can you imagine the piles and piles of insults and crap that people would be flinging at Lois if she did something like that?  So what....because it&#039;s Chloe....it&#039;s not so bad?  Yeah....sorry...I can&#039;t get on board with that.

At this point, I&#039;m sad to say that I&#039;m just not sure I care anymore about Chloe at all.  I&#039;ve tried all year.  I&#039;ve waited for her to say she was sorry and mean it.  Had she done that....I would have welcomed that character back with open arms.  I have felt sympathetic towards her all year waiting for her to break down and ask for help or say she was sorry.   But it&#039;s pretty clear now that that is not going to happen.  So, I have sort of given up.   I just don&#039;t care what happens to her.  When she&#039;s on my screen....I&#039;m bored.  I&#039;m sitting there waiting for the next scene because I just want her off my screen.  I just can&#039;t root for a character anymore whose actions per the show canon have been so intensely unlikable and despicable.  

If she says she is sorry before the end of the season....I&#039;ll be right back rooting for her again.   But until then...I just can&#039;t do it. :(  And I don&#039;t think I&#039;m alone.  

Thank you again for your review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, thank you for yur review.  It&#8217;s great to have another column to look forward to on this site.</p>
<p>I have to agree with some of the things my fellow posters have said above.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a few things that I think are important to remember here:</p>
<p>The first is something that I&#8217;ve said several times over the course of this year but I&#8217;m going to repeat again because I think it&#8217;s important.</p>
<p>Villians are responsible for the choices that they make.  If they commit a crime&#8230;that is on THEM.  No one else.   As I&#8217;ve shared before on here, I&#8217;m an attorney.  I&#8217;ve worked in a DA&#8217;s office in a very big city and I&#8217;ve worked on murder trials before.   The bottom line is that if a person commits murder&#8230;.they and they ALONE are responsible for that crime unless of course it&#8217;s some kind of conspiracy and there are multiple people involved in the criminal activity.   I&#8217;ve grown very tired of this idea out there in fandom that Clark is somehow at fault or responsible for the choices that the villians make on this show.  He&#8217;s not.  Clark is a good, generous and pure person of great moral character.   He is not in control of other people&#8217;s actions nor is he some kind of all knowing god that can anticipate every peron&#8217;s actions or reactions prior to them happening. He did exactly what he should have done in this episode by checking on Amanda and making sure that she was alright.  What happened to Faora was extremely tragic but it is in no way Clark&#8217;s fault.   The only person who &#8220;dropped the ball&#8221; in Faora&#8217;s murder was Zod by giving in to his brutality and surrendering his last ounce of goodness once and for all.</p>
<p>Second, I think it&#8217;s important to distinguish between what is objective vs. what is subjective about Chloe.  (I think this is what Natasha was getting at.)  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said before that I think Allison Mack is lovely and talented.  I have nothing but kind things to say about Allison so let&#8217;s just put that aside for a moment.  This has nothing to do with Allison.</p>
<p>There are certain things on this show that are subjective and how someone FEELS about Chloe is one of those things.   For example, if you happen to be a fan that finds Allison Mack so be absolutely beautiful and lovely then obviously those are subjective feelings.  Opinions.  And they do influence the way that we view things.</p>
<p>That being said, there are things on this show that are OBJECTIVE.  They are factual.  Our feelings don&#8217;t affect them either way because they happened whether we liked them or not.  Here are some of the facts about Chloe this year:  She embezzeled money from Oliver, she spied on Clark, she eavesdropped on his conversations, she openly blamed him for Jimmy&#8217;s death, she stored weapons behind Clark&#8217;s back and lied to him and she has never apologized for any of her behavior.  Now&#8230;these are facts from the show this year.  That is SHOW CANON.   How we FEEL about these things is going to be subjective depending on who you ask but the actions themselves are not up for debate.  They happened.</p>
<p>Why do I bring this up?  Because the last thing we ever want to do on here is bash a character senselessly.  (And I don&#8217;t think anyone has done this&#8230;.I&#8217;m just bringing this up for discussion.)  Instead, the best thing to do is to use actual facts from the show to discuss what we don&#8217;t agree with or what we don&#8217;t like.   This is my biggest pet peeve about some of the more extreme fans who bash Lois and why I think they have about as much credibility as a piece of lint.  The majority of their issues with Lois are either not based on anything factual in the show canon or are based on a DISTORTED show canon and it not at all correct based on what we have seen on the screen.  Their reasons for senselessly bashing Lois aren&#8217;t credible because they are entirely SUBJECTIVe.   </p>
<p>At this point, it&#8217;s just become extremely difficult for me, as a fan, to reconcile Chloe on the show anymore.   All I really have wanted all year from her is a genuine apology.  That&#8217;s pretty much it.  I do&#8217;nt need to see her punished or raked over the coals or hurt.  I just want to see her say she&#8217;s sorry and mean it.  </p>
<p>I think there were a lot of fans who were frustrated with this episode because Brian Peterson promised us that this would be the episode where we might see Chloe understand the consequences of her actions&#8230;and for the majority of us&#8230;.that meant a genuine apology.  I loved the episode.  I really did.  I thought it was brilliant in so many ways.  But I didn&#8217;t consider Chloe&#8217;s sacrifice of Watchtower to be powerful at all.  She didn&#8217;t surrender the computers because she realized she had been &#8220;wrong&#8221;&#8230;she did it to save her own life.  And at the end of the episode, Clark went to comfort her with a cup of coffee and she stormed past him and gave him the cold shoulder again.  How is that growth?  I don&#8217;t get it.  I just don&#8217;t.  How am I supposed to root for this character when she is so intensely cold and nasty to our hero?  I just can&#8217;t do it.</p>
<p>Can you imagine the shitstorm that would have erupted if it had been LOIS who had hesitated in leaving Tess for dead?  Honestly&#8230;.think about that.  Can you imagine the piles and piles of insults and crap that people would be flinging at Lois if she did something like that?  So what&#8230;.because it&#8217;s Chloe&#8230;.it&#8217;s not so bad?  Yeah&#8230;.sorry&#8230;I can&#8217;t get on board with that.</p>
<p>At this point, I&#8217;m sad to say that I&#8217;m just not sure I care anymore about Chloe at all.  I&#8217;ve tried all year.  I&#8217;ve waited for her to say she was sorry and mean it.  Had she done that&#8230;.I would have welcomed that character back with open arms.  I have felt sympathetic towards her all year waiting for her to break down and ask for help or say she was sorry.   But it&#8217;s pretty clear now that that is not going to happen.  So, I have sort of given up.   I just don&#8217;t care what happens to her.  When she&#8217;s on my screen&#8230;.I&#8217;m bored.  I&#8217;m sitting there waiting for the next scene because I just want her off my screen.  I just can&#8217;t root for a character anymore whose actions per the show canon have been so intensely unlikable and despicable.  </p>
<p>If she says she is sorry before the end of the season&#8230;.I&#8217;ll be right back rooting for her again.   But until then&#8230;I just can&#8217;t do it. :(  And I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m alone.  </p>
<p>Thank you again for your review.</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 10:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh...I agree with parts of this review but I think you&#039;re a bit off on others. Clark didn&#039;t drop the ball at all. He was his usual selfless, heroic self who did exactly what he needed to-tended to Zod&#039;s victim. Its not his fault that Zod is a brutal maniac and blaming him for it any way whatsoever shows a lack of understanding for the way &quot;justice&quot; actually works.  I remain unimpressed by Chloe&#039;s supposed &quot;sacrific&quot; as well. She sacrificed her computers to save her own freaking life.  Big freaking deal. Oh and then she was going to leave Tess for dead.  What a hero!!  Has she apologized once this entire season for her spying or coldnedd or for lying and embezzling or hiding weapons that can kill Clark or traching the Kyrptonians or any of the other heinous things that character has done which have caused me to basically despise her?  A genuine apology would go a long way with Chloe. Right now, I have zero sympathy for her. None. And I&#039;m not alone considering most of the fandom&#039;s reaction to this episode. All that being said, I thought it was a very solid episode. I appreciate your review and your contribution to the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh&#8230;I agree with parts of this review but I think you&#8217;re a bit off on others. Clark didn&#8217;t drop the ball at all. He was his usual selfless, heroic self who did exactly what he needed to-tended to Zod&#8217;s victim. Its not his fault that Zod is a brutal maniac and blaming him for it any way whatsoever shows a lack of understanding for the way &#8220;justice&#8221; actually works.  I remain unimpressed by Chloe&#8217;s supposed &#8220;sacrific&#8221; as well. She sacrificed her computers to save her own freaking life.  Big freaking deal. Oh and then she was going to leave Tess for dead.  What a hero!!  Has she apologized once this entire season for her spying or coldnedd or for lying and embezzling or hiding weapons that can kill Clark or traching the Kyrptonians or any of the other heinous things that character has done which have caused me to basically despise her?  A genuine apology would go a long way with Chloe. Right now, I have zero sympathy for her. None. And I&#8217;m not alone considering most of the fandom&#8217;s reaction to this episode. All that being said, I thought it was a very solid episode. I appreciate your review and your contribution to the site.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 06:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That thing..Chloe hesitating with Tess was one of the,if not THE biggest problem I had with her in this episode..that&#039;s why I think she still lingers between the dark side and redemption,becoming conscionable again.Everyone of our characters have gone through tuff times and dark periods,fighting their demons..shit happened,people have been lost.,but I don&#039;t think any of them and I&#039;m not talking about villains and bad guys.,would actually consider the thought to leave Tess for dead! That&#039;s why I think Chloe still has some atonement and soul searching to do,to resolve issues she still has with herself mostly and accept accountability for her own actions and mistakes instead of just blaming everyone else!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That thing..Chloe hesitating with Tess was one of the,if not THE biggest problem I had with her in this episode..that&#8217;s why I think she still lingers between the dark side and redemption,becoming conscionable again.Everyone of our characters have gone through tuff times and dark periods,fighting their demons..shit happened,people have been lost.,but I don&#8217;t think any of them and I&#8217;m not talking about villains and bad guys.,would actually consider the thought to leave Tess for dead! That&#8217;s why I think Chloe still has some atonement and soul searching to do,to resolve issues she still has with herself mostly and accept accountability for her own actions and mistakes instead of just blaming everyone else!</p>
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		<title>By: Natasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 03:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part I thought this was a well written and semi-objective review.  But yeah, I agree with Phil.  Clark catches flack for doing things a real hero would do...and if he didn&#039;t do them he catches flack for that too.  And it wasn&#039;t mentioned how Chloe hesitated on bringing Tess back.  Oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part I thought this was a well written and semi-objective review.  But yeah, I agree with Phil.  Clark catches flack for doing things a real hero would do&#8230;and if he didn&#8217;t do them he catches flack for that too.  And it wasn&#8217;t mentioned how Chloe hesitated on bringing Tess back.  Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumblond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dumblond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 03:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet Jebus when those Kandorians took off after Zod, my whole family was screaming at the TV.
Learn to fly, Clark! For the love of all that is holy!
I have been so happy with Callum Blue this season. He is making Zod someone I love to hate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet Jebus when those Kandorians took off after Zod, my whole family was screaming at the TV.<br />
Learn to fly, Clark! For the love of all that is holy!<br />
I have been so happy with Callum Blue this season. He is making Zod someone I love to hate!</p>
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		<title>By: phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 02:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice review, but i wouldnt say clark dropped the ball regarding faora getting killed. clark wouldnt be much of a hero if he didnt make sure everyone that zod thrashed were ok and were recieving medical help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice review, but i wouldnt say clark dropped the ball regarding faora getting killed. clark wouldnt be much of a hero if he didnt make sure everyone that zod thrashed were ok and were recieving medical help.</p>
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